Okay, so, I think I'm hearing two basic proposals here. Let's see if we can get them pinned down into a decide-betweenable form, and proceed from there. A. The Flock Proposal (a.k.a. Josh/Toshio/Haïkel/Christoph/Paul/etc., or Thundercougarfalconbird) - Replace current board with new body - New body has advisory role to FPL; FPL makes final decisions, striving as always for consensus where possible - Keeps all current responsibilies of board - some things, like trademarks and community dispute resolution may be delegated to subcommittees - Additionally, stronger charter for active leadership; creating and implementing shared vision - Composed of representatives from various Fedora committees, elected at the committee level; exact structure to be determined, but also flexible as needs of project change - Overall "org chart" for Fedora a little more pyramid-structured, with this clearly at the top. B. Two-Body Proposal (a.k.a. what I think I'm hearing from John) - Keep current board basically as it exists now in practice - Not necessarily as it is written up, which differs from that - specifically, "The Fedora Project Board is the executive team of the Fedora Project that makes guiding decisions and leads the project forward" would be rewritten to better reflect the idea of a "supreme court" rather than an _executive_ body. - in "responsibilities" from http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board, strike "oversight of subprojects" and "issues of strategic, as opposed to tactical, importance for Fedora that require leadership and vision from above the team or subproject level to achieve - As Greg defined the terms, more concerned with governance, less with leadership - Possibily additional governance roles, including more direct handling of community budget - Not mentioned, but putting this out there: we could consider switching this to being entirely elected at large rather than having appointed slots. - Chair of this body not necessarily FPL; in fact, FPL not necessarily a member - New executive council specifically tasked with refining and furthering the project's vision - More leadership, less governance - Probably composed almost exactly as proposal "A" - Except, unlike "A", this body wouldn't handle trademarks, community conflicts, or fundamental questions of Fedora values - It would, however, handle big things: I would expect that under this model most of the Fedora.next proposal would have gone here rather than to the Board unless someone specifically raised particular issues having to do with Friends/Freedom/Features/First. - Operational org chart still basically pyramid structured with new council at the peak and the board in sideways watchdog role Do these seem like reasonable statements of the proposals? Are there refinements to be made? Are there other proposals? I'm going to be taking a vacation next week, but then, as my kids' school starts up again in September and regular routine is re-established, it will be nose-directly-to-the-grindstone. I'd like to call for a basic decision here by, say, second week in September, so we can have clarity moving forward. -- Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Fedora Project Leader _______________________________________________ board-discuss mailing list board-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/board-discuss