On 01/11/2011 08:21 AM, Jon Masters wrote: > On Tue, 2011-01-11 at 08:03 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> On 01/11/2011 07:35 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >>> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > >>>> Well, ... you are missing many opportunities to >>>> demonstrate/test Fedora's suitability/identify where Fedora's design >>>> lacks on servers. > >>> As long as the lifecycle is as short as it is, it is not going to be >>> suitable for very many servers. >> Why? As long as updates work smoothly, all that is required to keep a >> server alive is an occasional reboot after updates. > > Without meaning to upset that apple cart too much...the reality (on > servers, such as mine at home) is that updates don't always work > smoothly, This isn't restricted to servers, but affects clients, too. > there are far too many of them, and the churn is high. Makes me wonder how I manage to keep my servers alive ;) Seriously: As first step, I usually try to slim down server installations to the "absolutely required minimum" - This alone keeps off a lot of the churn and of the potential breakage. Also, I don't "automatically install updates", but am installing them during "manual maintenance". I am experiencing occasional issues with updates, but am rarely experiencing serious ones. All in all, in reality, the updates aren't much of a problem. > The > Server SIG is a nice idea, but at the moment it's not practical to run > Fedora on a server. I'd like to use it for my own personal stuff, I do so. > but I > need something that is going to last a couple of years, with only > occasional syncing of security fixes, not 6-12 month re-installs. OK, your use-case seems to be different from mine ;) Admitted, the 6 months re-installs are annoying, but the 3-4 years release-cycle of RHEL is the other extreme end. That said, I can relate to people who are neither choosing Fedora nor RHEL, because Fedora/RH doesn't offer a middle-ground. Ralf _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board