Re: Language and locale selection

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On Tue, 2013-07-23 at 12:08 -0700, Brian C. Lane wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 06:49:59AM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> > On 07/23/2013 04:52 AM, Vratislav Podzimek wrote:
> > > The only "problem" is that we never get to situation where there is no
> > > language selected (and thus the "pop up submenu" is not shown). The
> > > installation starts with en_US or UEFI/GeoIP suggestion preselected.
> > > However this may be okay and with the arrow and better proportionality
> > > it looks much better, I think.
> > 
> > Yep exactly. The only thought I had to get around that oddness was that
> > the arrow & locale selection box would appear after some time delay. In
> > practice that might be annoying for the user though.
> > 
> > >> Maybe it would be better to do something like a one-window drilldown
> > >> (http://designinginterfaces.com/patterns/one-window-drilldown/). Where
> > >> the entire contents of the language selection disappear to show a 'back'
> > >> item at the top and the locale list? (I could mock that up tommorrow to
> > >> show what I mean, I have to sleep now though :) )
> > > Should I vote for something, this would be my choice. It is a common
> > > pattern in Gnome, mobile devices etc. so people are used to it. And if
> > > we added some "<" ">" arrows at the top, to get back to the list of
> > > languages and to the list of locales for the selected language,
> > > respectively, I think that would be the best solution.
> > 
> > I agree, it seems the cleanest solution and GNOME menus are starting to
> > use this pattern. I'll mock it up right now and send the updated mockups
> > here.
> 
> I *really* dislike this. It's like embedding a cell-phone in the middle
> of our UI. I know, not very constructive criticism. I'll try to think of
> some alternatives :)
I don't like this "embedding a cell-phone in the middle of our UI" too,
but since it is what GNOME now does basically all over their new (3.8+)
tools I think people will be getting used to this pattern more and more.

Alternative is a classical tree view with languages listed and each
language expanding to the list of it's locales. But that would be
problematic in case of some languages having a lot of locales (e.g.
English) that would push the next language aside a lot. And of course,
the Gtk's tree view has a tiny arrow or "+" for expanding.

-- 
Vratislav Podzimek

Anaconda Rider | Red Hat, Inc. | Brno - Czech Republic

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