James Shatto wrote: > I have a Delta 44 and it works fine. The inputs are picky in that they need to be fed with a line level source. Which for me means using a microphone preamp. Even on some sources that may not need one in other circumstances / other cards. > > That being said, the unknown symbol is common. If insmod-ing without deps, you can only do this in a specific order. If you boot using lilo and didn't rerun lilo to install the newer kernel, then it may be having version conflicts. If you didn't run depmod -ae after installing the newer alsa you might also have trouble. > > snd-ice1712 should be the right module(s). For me I modify the /etc/modules.conf configuration or modprobe.d / modutil.d modern equivalents. While disabling distro supplied defaults. In my case it looks something like this. > > # /etc/modprobe.d/alsa_custom > > alias char-major-116 snd > alias char-major-14 soundcore > > options snd major=116 cards_limit=1 > options snd-ice1712 index=0 > > alias snd-card-0 snd-ice1712 > alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 > alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss > alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss > alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss > alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss > alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss > > # END > > With this configuration, anytime you try to use the sound device the modules are automatically loaded. Also when you modprobe snd-ice1712, it picks up the dependants in whatever order they were supposed to be used in. > > Reindexing it to 0 makes it the default soundcard. There's other ways to do that, but this simplifies things for OSS type apps. Like festival / mozilla / ..... > > There are other issues if you're not using udev and/or didn't run the snddevices script to create the /dev devices (not to be run if you ARE using udev). But that doesn't appear to be your issue. And other ways to implement the above custom configuration with alsaconf and other utilities. I just never got them to work for me back in the day, and never adapted to letting current tools try to do it for me. > > - James > Julien Claassen wrote: > John! > with which kernel/ALSA did you test your Delta card? > Another short idea, though perhaps not too helpful taken by itself: > Your problem with the new ALSA seems to be a depencence problem. It > looks like your ALSA needs some other module loaded first, to have > some symbols. I don't know: did you run a depmod -a? I don't have a > Delta 66 but a delta1010lt and it works great. It also worked with > 2.6.24.something-rt > But I always built my kernels on my own. And I use the built-in ALSA > and compile the absolute minimum of module ncessary. > Kindest regards and soory I couldn't be of morehelp > Julien Hello, Thanks for the responses. James: I've heard that the inputs are picky, I am running my sources into a mixing console, then out from there into the breakout box (standard Delta box supplied with the card). I ran depmod -ae per your suggestion, it helped, but still not loading the modules. It only has one FATAL error now. WARNING: Error inserting snd (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/ubuntu/sound/alsa-driver/acore/snd.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) WARNING: Error inserting snd_seq_device (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/ubuntu/sound/alsa-driver/acore/seq/snd-seq-device.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) WARNING: Error inserting snd_rawmidi (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/ubuntu/sound/alsa-driver/acore/snd-rawmidi.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) WARNING: Error inserting snd_mpu401_uart (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/ubuntu/sound/alsa-driver/drivers/mpu401/snd-mpu401-uart.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) WARNING: Error inserting snd_i2c (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/ubuntu/sound/alsa-driver/i2c/snd-i2c.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) WARNING: Error inserting snd_timer (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/ubuntu/sound/alsa-driver/acore/snd-timer.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) WARNING: Error inserting snd_pcm (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/ubuntu/sound/alsa-driver/acore/snd-pcm.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) WARNING: Error inserting snd_ac97_codec (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/ubuntu/sound/alsa-driver/pci/ac97/snd-ac97-codec.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) WARNING: Error inserting snd_cs8427 (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/ubuntu/sound/alsa-driver/i2c/snd-cs8427.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) WARNING: Error inserting snd_ak4xxx_adda (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/ubuntu/sound/alsa-driver/i2c/other/snd-ak4xxx-adda.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) WARNING: Error inserting snd_ice17xx_ak4xxx (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/ubuntu/sound/alsa-driver/pci/ice1712/snd-ice17xx-ak4xxx.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) FATAL: Error inserting snd_ice1712 (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/ubuntu/sound/alsa-driver/pci/ice1712/snd-ice1712.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) I did not run the snddevices script because the alsa-project.org page http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-ice1712 said to use it if you were running the driver version older than 0.9 (something), which I'm not. Also, I am not sure what udev is or how to know if I am using it. By the way, I boot from grub and not from lilo. As far as I know, I followed the instructions on the alsa-project.org page I mentioned about modules.conf, etc. but they were not very clear to me, however, I pasted your configuration into /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base (which is when it started only having one FATAL error), and I then ran alsaconf, but got the same result. Julien: Right now, I am testing, well trying to, under kernel 2.6.24-19-generic (#1 SMP Wed Aug 20 17:53:40 UTC 2008) (taken from sysinfo) with ALSA 1.0.17. I see many people saying that their similar card works, I was wondering if the problem has anything to do with the 64bit ubuntu I am using, because the card worked well in 32 bit Windows. 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