Re: locale and dead keys

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On 14/08/2005, at 6:38 AM, Antonios Christofides wrote:

I get empty boxes when I type a dead key, instead of the input not
moving, then the accent being placed on the next vowel. :(

Antonios, thankyou very much for your other very detailed post. I found it very interesting. I don't know how much of it I can apply to my own problem, but it's very good to know these things for themselves.

This must be a locale problem.

1) What operating system do you use?

Mac OSX 10.4.2, all updates current.

2) Open a terminal emulator, like xterm, and enter the command
   "locale". What is the result?

Pearl:~ clytie$ locale
LANG=
LC_COLLATE="C"
LC_CTYPE="C"
LC_MESSAGES="C"
LC_MONETARY="C"
LC_NUMERIC="C"
LC_TIME="C"
LC_ALL="C"
Pearl:~ clytie$

There seems to be a concensus on "C" here. ;)  What is C?

The Mac machines are still MacRoman base; all the Unicode stuff is overlayed on that. Even in the main GUI, applications can use Unicode or not. I don't know what that says about the locale of the main GUI, or an overall locale. I can choose a Unicode keyboard layout in the main GUI, and providing the application supports Unicode, everything works fine.
Not in X11, so far.

3) Give me a specific example of what is not working. A specific
   letter, with a specific accent. Choose a simple one with one
   accent, because I'm not familiar with Vietnamese.

OK, I won't use any of the combined diacritics, because even the simple ones aren't working.

In xterm, I try typing e-grave, which should look like:

è

if your mailer supports Unicode (è if you only have Latin-1, for reference).

Note: the X11 preferences under Input have an option to "Use the system keyboard layout", and I have checked that. That means it should use whatever keyboard layout I normally use in the main GUI. It _is_ using my Vietnamese layout, or I would be seeing normal Latin-1 text.

Then, I try an e grave in xterm in X11:

 e

I get space, e. On my layout, I type 5-e to get e-grave, so if it were not using my layout, that's what we would see:

5e

but we see

 e

I hope that is helpful. :S

Finally, your emails have given me some hope of resolving this!

Σας ευχαριστώ.

from Clytie (vi-VN, Vietnamese free-software translation team / nhóm Việt hóa phần mềm tự do)
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/vi-VN



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