Joshua: I haven't been able to fix this problem for this moment. We will make the master HD today and will offer an update as sood as the RPM comes to us in a stable version It is sais to appear in December. It will also appear in the next RH distribution. I have tried to disable double buffering, dri, glcore, glx, v4l.... but no solution. The "X" appears right in the moment gnome says "Loading sawfish....". In your case, does it only happen when logging as a plain user? In my case it doesn't appear when logging as root. We cannot move to kde, gnome was offerted in the initial conditions and it is very personalisez for the end-user. Thanks for your time, I will tell you if I find something.! Eduardo Gimeno. IBM - Spain _________________________________________________________________ MSN. Más Útil Cada Día http://www.msn.es/intmap/ _______________________________________________ Newbie@XFree86.Org *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie