I was the "Xtremely frustrated Debian newbie" who posted a while back. Thanks to everyone for the helpful responses. I have decided to switch to Mandrake, both to lessen my learning curve and so that I can use my current video card. In other words I am swallowing my geekish pride and going with the "easy" one... Hopefully the little bit I have learned about Debian is transferrable :) BTW, I also complained to the makers of my chipset and video card (Power VR and Hercules) and asked them to release source code/specifications so that all Linux users can use their products. -Adam _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.