Hi Artem, On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 2:16 PM Artem S. Tashkinov <aros@xxxxxxx> wrote: > On 10/3/22 14:20, Steven Rostedt wrote: > > On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 09:40:43 +0000 > > "Artem S. Tashkinov" <aros@xxxxxxx> wrote: > >> For instance, I've CC'ed Linus Torvalds _privately_ from Bugzilla twice > >> and he _chimed_ in and _helped_ resolve the bugs. > > > > You didn't Cc Linus _privately_, because you Cc'd him from Bugzilla. I'm > > guessing that means it's a public conversation. Which is similar to Cc'ing > > a maintainer and a public mailing list. > > I _did_ CC him privately by adding his _personal_ e-mail. I'm astonished > not only you don't believe me you turn my words inside out. I think there is a misunderstanding of the meaning of "CC privately". To me it means no public data disclosing entity (be it a public mailing list, or a public bug tracker) was CCed as well. To you, it seems to mean you used his personal email address instead of a mailing list address. > Wow, so pretty much the vast majority of people here advocate for > deprecating Bugzilla and asking non-IT people to use something which is > essentially a ... SPAM list? > > Woah. > > I've given almost a dozen reasons why mailing lists simply don't work as > a bug tracker in absolute most cases. And people disagree. No amount of "Woah" will change that, only facts and figures can do. > BTW, this discussion is a perfect f-ing example of that. What could have > been easily read in a tracker needs to be repeated over and over and > over again because you didn't bother to read previous messages 'cause > you were busy, not paying attention, simply forgot and you don't want to > scroll days of messages in your inbox. > > God, this is so ugly it's cringe worthy. > > Most people here who advocate for killing off Bugzilla: > > 1) Have _never_ used it > 2) Have troubles even following _this_ conversation > > That' ridiculous. Thanks for your insults. This is not the way to convince people. P.S. I did read all of it, I may stop doing so soon... Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds