Not wanting to throw any oil on this fire, or make things worse, I still don't see any mention of an order for these keys. Not even all colors are defined. A quote from the site you linked: other keys marked in various colours (e.g.: red, green, yellow, blue) Various colors, meaning there's no limit to the amount of colors. E.g. meaning, for example red, green, yellow and blue. It doesn't state 'only red green yellow and blue, in this order' Actually, the whole point of TOP teletekst using colors and not order was that order did not matter. Hence even big name manufactures of big name remotes (Logitech, Sony as mentioned here, my iMon that came with my silverstone case as menitoned by me, and it even has purple as mentioned by someone else which also falls under the category 'various colours') don't always use this specific order and layout. Anyway, I wrote a simple patch to solve this issue 4 months ago, and was simple asking for a review. So I'll simply re-send that mail and we can all move on and get a long :) On 04/05/11 00:33, fnu wrote: > === > Your theory that the RGYB color scheme is a worldwide standard with only cheap obscure non-media remotes being 'non-compliant' has already been thrown out the window. I don't know why you think pasting a link to an Italian website can somehow resurrect the dead theory. Btw, no link you ever paste will outweigh what color scheme people see on their physical remotes. If you want to argue about it further then contact Panasonic, Sony, and your friends at Logitech to start with. > === > > Well, that's a claim. > > It's not just any italian URL, this is the main page of the inventor and license holder for "TOP Teletext". This is the company where all manufacturer do pay their license fees to, if their TV set do provide this function. The invention of T(able) O(f) P(ages) Teletext brought us the colored keys on TV remotes 25 years ago, not surprisingly in the order R(ed) G(reen) Y(ellow) B(lue). > > Fifteen years later, Klaus adopt these common keys and standardized this order, RGYB, for his awesome and incredible solution VDR, as they are anywhere available, except on some trashy ones ... > > Regards > fnu > > > _______________________________________________ > vdr mailing list > vdr@xxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr _______________________________________________ vdr mailing list vdr@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr