On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 17:25 +0100, Brian wrote: > Jon Burgess wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 20:12 +0100, Brian wrote: > >> Tony Grant wrote: > >>> Le lundi 05 f?vrier 2007 ? 17:49 +0100, Brian a ?crit : > >>> > >>>> BBC3 and BBC4 only start to show programs at 19:00 UK time. My EPG for > >>>> these programs comes via the internet. If I try to look at the EPG for > >>>> those channels before 19:00, then they are not even shown in the list of > >>>> programs I have EPG for on the OSD. > >>>> I assume this is a desired behaviour of VDR. If so, any way to change it? > >>>> I didn't find anyway in the Menus. > >>> I use the following method: > >>> > >>> - grab the EPG from the radio times site with xmltv > >>> - feed vdr with xmltv2vdr > >>> - vdr updates "on the fly" EPG data for changed times > >>> > >>> And I use vdradmin rather than the OSD so you see the timelines of 3 and > >>> 4 starting at 7. Before then you do have ceebeebies and the other kids > >>> channel onn the same frequency > >>> > >>> Cheers > >>> > >>> Tony > >>> > >> Tony, > >> > >> I get the EPG into VDR the same way. And I can see it via VDRAdmin. Its > >> just I want to see it on the OSD before 7pm if at all possible. > >> > >> Cheers Brian > >> > > > > I use the off-air EPG and the display of BBC3/4 is OK right now (18:30). > > When you look at the EPG in vdradmin do you see any programs covering > > the period when the channel is off-air? > > > > I see token schedule entries covering the off-air period: > > > > > > 05:32 - 12:00 'This is BBC THREE' > > 12:00 - 18:58 'This is BBC THREE' > > 18:58 - 19:00 'Welcome to BBC THREE' > > ... on-air > > 19:00 - 20:00 'Dog Borstal' > > ... > > > > Perhaps the issue with xmltv2vdr is that there are voids in the schedule > > data which (might) cause the channel not to be listed in the schedule > > guide. > > > > Jon > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > vdr mailing list > > vdr@xxxxxxxxxxx > > http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr > > > > > Hi, > maybe I was not clear about the problem. My EPG for BBC3/4 has about 1 > weeks data in it. I retrieve it from the Radio Times website. Here is an > excerpt from VDRAdmin. > > ..... > 04:20 - 04:50 The Indestructibles > <---- big gap here, same each day > 20:00 - 20:30 Doctor Who Confidential > 20:30 - 21:15 Doctor Who > ..... > > The problem is if I go into the VDR OSD and press schedule (when tuned > to BBC1 for example), then hit the NEXT button, then I get a list of all > channels that VDR has got EPG for. "Whats on next" is the screen > title. Before 19:00 (UK time) this list is missing BBC3 and BBC4. So I > cannot select them to look at the EPG data which is most certainly there. > > I think VDR is saying "BBC3 and BBC4 do not exist, therefore don't show > their EPG". Or, this channel is "CBeebies, get its EPG", which does not > exist. > > If I tune to BBC3 before 19:00 then press "OK", I do not get the usual > two EPG entries "Whats on now" and "Whats on next". So it seems like it > isn't retrieving the EPG from the epg.data file at that time either. > Makes sense. I was trying to highlight that this big space in the EPG is almost certainly the reason you see problems with the EPG on these channels. Maybe this is a bug in VDR but as you can see the broadcast EPG data is filled with entries even when the channels are off-air so this is why most people probably do not see this issue. One workaround would be to adapt xmltv2epg to fill in these blanks. Jon