On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:25:20AM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Monday 26 January 2009 08:08:54 Marco d'Itri wrote: > > On Jan 26, Mike Frysinger <vapier@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > i was pointing out your statement that rtcwake is currently not useful is > > > clearly false. power management can be done just fine without requiring > > > extraneous packages such as pm-utils and all the fun HAL stuff. > > > > Yes. Now that we are done nitpicking, can we discuss about how to fix > > rtcwake to work on normal systems where pm-utils is being used? > > i wasnt nitpicking. it seemed to me that you wanted to take rtcwake in the > direction of not supporting suspend at all and making people do it other ways > (i.e. requiring pm-utils). by pointing out that rtcwake does actually work as > originally intended (i.e. not requiring external packages), we can agree that > dropping the code in question isnt going to happen. extending it to work with > pm-utils for the cases where people want that is fine of course. I'm not sure what you mean with "extending it to work with pm-utils", but I'd like to keep rtcwake(8) very simple, void possible complexity and any external dependencies. It's low-level command that is designed for "advanced users", ..., I guess people normally use things like gnome-power-manager or so. It would be nice to add some information about pm-util to rtcwake.8 (to section NOTES or SEE ALSO). Karel -- Karel Zak <kzak@xxxxxxxxxx> -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe util-linux-ng" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html