Re: TRN: in reply (vi), line-nums are pale-yellow, *impossible* to read

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On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 09:16:17AM +0300, Yury Burkatovsky wrote:
> Hi David,
> This is no way a TRN related topic.
> If you have an X window environment on your desktop, you could use any of
> the plenty of available X-window oriented editors, including GNU freeware.
> I personally tossed dtterm out and switched to xterm long ago, mostly due
> to its better mouse support. Anyway, *term is only needed for running old
> terminal-oriented applications while there are editors that create windows
> of their own.
> I would recommend using nedit ( but this is my own
> personal preference. It is very easy to learn for a beginner, highly
> customizable and easily built for a variety of platforms. There are also
> out-of-the-box binary files ready for installation on Sun, Linux, HP-UX
> and other targets. Nedit has a lot of useful features that you won't
> find in either vi or nvi. You can read some articles on nedit at
> and (more recent)
> Others may recommend other editors for X windows.
> Again, this is irrelevant for "more about trn" IMO.
> -- 
> Regards,						|       /^^^\
> 	Yury						|     (| , , |)
> 							|      |  *  |
> E-mail: yury.burkatovsky at telrad dot co dot il	|       \_-_/
> On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, David Combs wrote:
> > For the first time ever, for the last week, since
> > I switched from using the ancient sun "shelltool"
> > gui-terminal-emulator (is that what it & dtterm &
> > xterm are called?) to cde ddterm, I am able
> > to see *COLORS*!
> >

Thanks -- and your reply leads to some further

First, you talk about "editors" -- but I'm not
running trn through an "editor".

Rather, I have a "shell account" on my isp,
into which I dial via C-Kermit.

On my sun, I need *some* kind of a screen
that I can type commands into, eg "ls",
"pwd", etc, and even "kermit".

So I run kermit, which dials out to my isp,
establishes a connection, etc.

Then, once I'm in a shell (window)
over there (I specify "tcsh" for my shell),
I can then, *over at my ISP*,
trn chooses an editor, eg vi (which on 
this net-bsd system is actually nvi,
I am told) where I see the horrible

It is only trn (running nvi for me for
a followup) that causes this horrible



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