On Wed, Aug 07, 2002 at 02:46:22PM -0400, William W. Arnold wrote: > Mike Castle writes --- > >In article <20020806070220.GA13581@panix.com>, > >David Combs <dkcombs@panix.com> wrote: > >>So, I'd like to remove most of the header-lines, > >>to save disk-space, also to make paging > > > <snip> > A quick check through one of the groups I read shows that > the headers are ~40% of the total size. This doesn't matter > if you have 1 message per file, since the average size is > less than one block per message. But if you're putting a > number of messages in one file (ie, mbox format) it can make > a significant difference. (says someone who did this when > he was in school, with a very restrictive quota) Thanks for the 40% info. So, it is worthwhile to shrink them down; thank you. Below, I include Mike's email -- the header to it, that is; his header is especially long and, seems to me, worthy of trimming (yes, I do keep them stored all in one file, eg "trn-workers"). Now, in his header, which lines, *specifically*, would you KEEP? (remember -- over the years, I'll accumulated, via explicit per-message saves (via mutt), *hundreds* of these. And for eg comp.lang.perl.misc, *thousands* (some very, *very* clever stuff in that newsgroup.)) And here comes that monster header, just below; but first, this: To EASILY show what'd you keep, perhaps just copy (within your replies (plural, please, guys)) this entire, huge header down to the end, and then simply delete *from that* everything that *you* (and you, and you, my fellow trn-workers listers) would toss. Or, no copying to do, just prepend a "KEEP" to those lines you'd keep? Now, here it is: --------- >From trn-workers-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Wed Aug 7 14:26:57 2002 Return-Path: <trn-workers-admin@lists.sourceforge.net> Received: from netcom.com (mx1.netcom.com [199.174.33.82]) by mail3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 468B1982A9; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 14:26:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net (usw-sf-fw2.sourceforge.net [216.136.171.252]) by netcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16888; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 13:26:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] helo=usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17cVVT-0004YW-00; Wed, 07 Aug 2002 11:26:03 -0700 Received: from a.smtp-out.sonic.net ([208.201.224.38]) by usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with smtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17cVUc-0008Le-00 for <trn-workers@lists.sourceforge.net>; Wed, 07 Aug 2002 11:25:10 -0700 Received: (qmail 24692 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 17:58:28 -0000 Received: from sub.sonic.net (208.201.224.8) by a.smtp-out.sonic.net with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 17:58:28 -0000 Received: from thune.mrc-home.org (adsl-209-204-178-126.sonic.net [209.204.178.126]) by sub.sonic.net (8.11.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id g77HwSD27864 for <trn-workers@lists.sourceforge.net>; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:58:28 -0700 X-envelope-info: <dalgoda@ix.netcom.com> Received: by thune.mrc-home.org (8.11.4) id g77HwRL11181; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:58:27 -0700 Newsgroups: local.ml.trn.workers From: dalgoda@ix.netcom.com (Mike Castle) Subject: Re: (shrinking saved news): which header-lines to KEEP? References: <20020806070220.GA13581@panix.com> Organization: House of Linux X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test74 (May 26, 2000) Path: not-for-mail Originator: nexus@thune.mrc.org (Mike Castle) Message-ID: <04nria.9ta.ln@thune.mrc-home.org> To: trn-workers@lists.sourceforge.net Sender: trn-workers-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Errors-To: trn-workers-admin@lists.sourceforge.net X-BeenThere: trn-workers@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Help: <mailto:trn-workers-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=help> List-Post: <mailto:trn-workers@lists.sourceforge.net> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/trn-workers>, <mailto:trn-workers-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe> List-Id: <trn-workers.lists.sourceforge.net> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/trn-workers>, <mailto:trn-workers-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.geocrawler.com/redir-sf.php3?list=trn-workers> X-Original-Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:58:25 -0700 Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:58:25 -0700 Status: RO X-Status: F Content-Length: 1944 Lines: 54 In article <20020806070220.GA13581@panix.com>, David Combs <dkcombs@panix.com> wrote: ... ... Thanks, everyone! David PS: note how in mutt the "h" command toggles the header *as-seen-ON-SCREEN* between actual-header and a much-shorter version (makes it easier to see the actual message-text) -- HOWEVER, that toggle has *no effect* on what gets saved via the "s" command -- which always outputs the *actual* header. ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf