It would really be great if: (a) one or more people (working together?) would *document* Pnews, , so that without much study, we can understand exactly how it works, , and therefore can figure out ourselves how to insert *our own* hacks! (b) these wonderful perl-callouts that have recently been sent out to the list -- perhaps *they too* could be documented, so that if we want to make additions to them, we can do it. (c) Thanks so much for the scripts; because of the wide range of shell-programming (or for perl), it would be a help to at least *some* of us if those "left as an exercise" statements were fully fleshed out -- perhaps with the prolog of "Actually, the following should be totally *obvious* to all on this list; however, just in case, I explain it anyway (for the dodos :-)." (d) Perhaps we could have an *informal* way to collect together, perhaps at some web site, the various hacks people have done? Again, thanks for showing us the code you use to make trn more useful. David _______________________________________________________________ Don't miss the 2002 Sprint PCS Application Developer's Conference August 25-28 in Las Vegas -- http://devcon.sprintpcs.com/adp/index.cfm