Hi Bill! Can you log into the idepad via ssh and try to upgrade to "excalibur" (=testing) ? It has a kernel version that's better suited AMD laptops. FWIW: I have 2 of these amd ideapads (17" version): both run daedalus and work perfectly fine from the linux side - but on one machine the mainboard has a defect and is waiting for a replacement the third week now. I'll go through your mail later when I have more time :) Nik Anno domini 2023 Fri, 13 Oct 01:14:34 -0700 William Morder via tde-users scripsit: > > On Friday 13 October 2023 00:10:09 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via tde-users wrote: > > Hi Bill! > > > > Anno domini 2023 Thu, 12 Oct 23:02:41 -0700 > > Can you post some more details please: > > - you can get into bios? > Yes, as I said, I got into the bios to change to legacy boot, legacy first, > etc. I explain in some detail (maybe too much detail) in the original post. > > > - GRUB starts with readable text? > > - kernel boots with readable text? > > - kernel drm starts and text gets garbage? > > - X11 starts and screen is garbage? > > > Everything is fine in my regular working system. These problems occur only > when I am trying to install Devuan Daedalus. Both the testing version and the > new release, the stable version, behave the same in this regard. > > I cannot make out anything at all when booting from the USB flash drive with > Daedalus. However, it works when I put Devuan Chimaera on that flash drive. > > > - Did it work before you swaped the ssd? > I never booted into the original 128 gb SSD. (It has never been touched, just > sitting in a box of parts.) When I got the laptop home, first thing I did was > to take it apart and put in a brand-new, virgin SSD, 2 tb. It was on this > that I installed Linux on first boot, and have gone through only Devuan > Chimaera and now Daedalus. > > > - Can you boot e.g. puppylinux (latest version)? > I will have to find an image and put it on USB. I can boot from a Slacko disc, > kind of an older one. I can boot from a Debian Beowfulf live disc. If I put > Devuan Chimaera back on this USB, then I am pretty sure that it will also > boot just fine, as it did before, whenever I've installed from it. (My other > USB flash drives have gradually got corrupted, and I need to buy some new > ones. I just have one other, that I use for personal files that I need to > take with me sometimes when I am out and about in the so-called real world.) > > > > - Can you post the exact model number of your Ideapad? > I started to type out the model number, etc., but must beg forgiveness for my > old eyes that get tired of squinting. Instead, I have attached a small > screenshot of from the actual order, which shows the model number, original > specs, etc. As I said elsewhere, I swapped the original internal SSD, 128 gb, > for a new untouched 2 tb SSD, and it was on this that I installed Linux on my > first boot. Neither Windoze nor any other OS has touched my machine, only > Devuan. > > > > > Nik > > > > Greetings, Nik! > > Maybe I did not make this part clear; but I don't otherwise get this weird > messed-up screen -- except when I am attempting to *install* Devuan Daedalus > from a USB flash drive. Now that I am back into my regular system, no > problems of that sort. Boots up just fine. > > However, I have been noticing all kinds of weird glitches in this Devuan > Daedalus system. (I installed Chimaera first, then upgraded by changing > sources.list.) I was hoping this could be attributed to the fact that it > wasn't quite approved as stable yet. I jumped the gun a bit, because I wanted > to get rid of some kind of creeping instability issues that I was noticing in > Chimaera. > > Now, just to clarify the sequence of events: > I tried installing a Devuan Daedalus testing version > (devuan_daedalus_5.0.0-rc8_amd64_desktop.iso) from a flash drive, but I got > these same kinds of weird messed-up screens. At the time, I put it to the > fact that it was, after all, as testing version, not quite ready for prime > time. > > So then I put Devuan Chimaera (devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_amd64_desktop.iso) back > on that USB drive. Somewhere along the way, this original flash drive got > corrupted, and I am unsure of the exact place in this sequence. No problem; > once I realized that the USB was corrupted (reading only 190 mb capacity > instead of 64 gb!), I got out my own flash drive, exactly the same as the > first, only unused (SanDisk Ultra, I think?), and put the Devuan Chimaera on > that matching USB flash drive. > > From there -- on a new untouched, never used USB flash drive, but the same > brand and specs as the previous one -- I installed my Devuan Chimaera system > again. And then, from there, I changed my sources.list to Daedalus, and > upgraded like that. Only, like I said, still all these weird glitches.... But > at least I do at present have a running system, which is "sort of stable" in > the sense that it doesn't actually crash or anything. There are just a whole > lot of strange things that never happened before on any of my systems, ever, > and I am mystified. > > E.g, > * Some functions don't work on my external keyboard. > When I try to use some everyday keyboard shortcuts like alt-tab to switch > viewed pages within a desktop (e.g., between Kmail's main page and this > working email), I can only do so by using my laptop's keyboard, not by using > my external keyboard. (It has occurred to me that maybe I just need a new > keyboard/mouse combo, but I haven't got that far yet, as thus far it > indicates that everything is just hunky-dory.) But when I try to use my > external keyboard to swap pages, I get intead only the tab space, and the > alt- part of the command is not recognized. Same with most other keyboard > shortcuts, like alt-F2, etc. Except, except ... about once in every 20 > reboots, suddenly all those shortcut functions work again on my external > keyboard. > * External hard drives now will not stay writable when mounted. (However, I > can still read from them, such as to play sound files. Sometimes, when > working with text documents, I can continue to write to the external hard > drive, but not always. Still, this is the exception. The 4 hard drives are > SSDs, 2 formatted ext3 and 2 as ext4; the only reason for this difference is > how long I have had them. Only one, formatted ext3, is sometimes writable, if > I am working on text documents, OpenOffice docs, etc. I can generally write > to them (such as copying files from my system's internal hard drive to one of > the external drives) for a little while, maybe half an hour or so, if I am > continuously copying a few large files, but otherwise the external drives > become unwritable after only maybe 10 or 15 minutes. Sort of like sudo > permissions, now that I think of it ...? > > There are a host of other similar glitches, but these are a few of the > highlights. And now that I have upgraded to Devuan Daedalus, the glitches, if > anything, are only getting worse. > > And now, apologies to everybody for the length. I have tried to be as thorough > as possible in describing these issues, while also hitting on only what seem > to me the most salient points. Hereafter I'll try just to refer back to this > description, unless something new comes up. > > See attachment for laptop specs. By the way, the laptop is new as of early > December 2021, so not quite 2 years old. And after I got it set up as I > wanted, looking and running like my old desktop system, everything has been > pretty smooth sailing ... until this new Devuan Daedalus release. > > thanks to all, > > Bill > > -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ... ____________________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx