On 3/14/23 5:11 AM, deloptes via tde-users wrote:
This notify facility is something that I had _NO_ involvement with in
getting set up. This has got to be something native in the OS -- and
not a TDE "thing". Yet it's seems to be "standard" enough that TDE can
effect the display of those new mail messages.
I forgot to mention that there is a dbus notifications daemon in TDE (and
this is how I learned all about this). This daemon can be used to display
notifications, but I have not seen any usage of it (except in such cases
like yours, where you send message from command line or so). I found out
that each application handles the messages itself (it is addressed on
dbus).
It could be I am wrong and if someone knows better, please, let us know.
I tried using the kdbusnotifcation package. My original post was about
notify-send expiration times that are not being honored. So dbus
notifications do work in TDE but not in full conformance.
Anybody using free/libre software is aware of the break neck speed at
which software evolves and matures. A dozen years is a "lifetime" in
that respect. Many of the changes have much to do with modern standards.
Much software in TDE is from an era when there were few standards. TDE
remains entrenched in those old ways. The rest of the world has moved on
to support those standards. For example, despite claims on the TDE web
site, TDE is not XDG compliant.
Not to despair because dbus notification is broken in KDE too
(https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=381693). In KDE the notification
design remains rooted in a presumption that KDE is the only DE
installed. With a shared heritage TDE design suffers from this same
foundation.
TDE is similar and does not coexist well with other DEs. The GTK theming
engines are examples. That TDE remains relegated to living in /opt
purgatory will always cause issues that the other DEs do not have,
especially with environment variables. Many TDE users are unlikely to
notice these issues because TDE is the only DE installed and the only
one they use. Many TDE users likely have grown accustomed to various
warts and blemishes.
My grand curse seems to be having worked as a technical writer for many
years and having a trained eye and mind to see both the "trees and
forest." I tend to break software more easily than most folks and tend
to discover usability issues faster than many people. I also have been
using computers for more than 40 years and have a different usage
perspective than most of the modern smartphone generation of computer users.
I do not have any slick answers or solutions.
DA
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