Thanks Bill, E., I'm such a luddite when it comes to GUI. > As for starting it minimized, I believe that you can set any window to > start minimized: right-click at top of window > Advanced > Special > Application Settings, etc. I didn’t even know about the Special Application Settings. Once I finally figured out how to get it to work (make sure to click the X on the right to enable the setting!) it worked great to both minimize it and open it on the second desktop (that way it doesn’t flash in the task bar either). I actually liked E.’s idea better, and tried a few, but ‘eh, I got Kaboodle to work, so I gave up looking for something that has a ‘--minimized’ switch. Here’s what worked in cron. #!/bin/bash DISPLAY=:0 /opt/trinity/bin/kaboodle /opt/trinity/share/sounds/KDE_Window_Close.ogg # # # Oh, the goal is to get me off my butt once an hour, so if I’m not at the computer, I probably don’t need the sound. I have also turned off/force stopped/removed Google from my phone, which has mostly crippled it. All the default apps have to have notifications silenced or they spam you with, “Google services seems to be off, should I turn it back on?” Gotta love G’s persistence to spy on you, cause really, under what conceivable scenario does a calculator need to phone home to G to work? I could probably side load a third party timer though. Thanks again, Michael ____________________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx