Re: Change to forum software? (was TDE Matrix.org room?)

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On Saturday 09 October 2021 02:26:02 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:

> Anno domini 2021 Fri, 8 Oct 20:20:45 -0500
>
>  Michael scripsit:
> > On Friday 08 October 2021 05:25:21 pm Edward wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > AFAIK it should be possible to make one key pair and share both keys
> > with the whole list, just for use with this list.  Everyone sends on
> > the public key and everyone decodes on the private key.  Yes, it
> > technically violates the concept of key pairs, but we're just trying
> > to keep the list’s content from being easily [data collected] and
> > [censored] by [automated data collecting] mail providers(/entities).
> >
> > I’m going to presume that any list encryption is pointless if
> > someone installs the key pair on anything except a local mail
> > client.  E.g if someone installs the key pair on their google web
> > mail interface…  (I didn’t think of this until later.)
> >
> > That presumption is why I suggested a forum type of replacement for
> > the user lists.  I’m not that up on current ‘stuff’ so pretty much
> > anything that eliminates [automated data collecting] being easily
> > tied to a particular person and/or an entity being able to [censor]
> > participation works for me.
> >
> > I don’t think there is any sort of perfect solution (maybe a tor
> > onion site, but ugh, that wouldn’t be user friendly at all.).
>
> The header is not encrypted, it's just the message body. So all
> metadata analysis is still possible with an encrypted mailinglist. If
> everybody uses kmail that's easy to fix with a filter - if you look at
> my filter that I posted some days ago: if the mail is encrypted and
> comes from e.g. "users-encrypted@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx", then replace it
> with the decrypted body. That body vcontains (violating the standard)
> the whole message including headers. On the sending side
> (mailinglist), just replace the header with a minimal version and
> random subject (e.g. date+timestamp).
>
> Making a shared private/public keypair for the list is used the othe
> way round is no problem, as changing the private part will have no
> effect. It's also convenient, as all users can use the public key to
> send encrypted mail to the list. Again, kmail can handle this this
> transparent for the user.
>
> Oh, anybody needs a tutorial?

Yes Nik.

> Nik
>
> > Best,
> > Michael
> >
> > PS: I’m using [] around concepts, interchange with any type of ‘bad’
> > activity you want.
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