On Saturday 09 October 2021 02:26:02 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Anno domini 2021 Fri, 8 Oct 20:20:45 -0500 > > Michael scripsit: > > On Friday 08 October 2021 05:25:21 pm Edward wrote: > > [...] > > > AFAIK it should be possible to make one key pair and share both keys > > with the whole list, just for use with this list. Everyone sends on > > the public key and everyone decodes on the private key. Yes, it > > technically violates the concept of key pairs, but we're just trying > > to keep the list’s content from being easily [data collected] and > > [censored] by [automated data collecting] mail providers(/entities). > > > > I’m going to presume that any list encryption is pointless if > > someone installs the key pair on anything except a local mail > > client. E.g if someone installs the key pair on their google web > > mail interface… (I didn’t think of this until later.) > > > > That presumption is why I suggested a forum type of replacement for > > the user lists. I’m not that up on current ‘stuff’ so pretty much > > anything that eliminates [automated data collecting] being easily > > tied to a particular person and/or an entity being able to [censor] > > participation works for me. > > > > I don’t think there is any sort of perfect solution (maybe a tor > > onion site, but ugh, that wouldn’t be user friendly at all.). > > The header is not encrypted, it's just the message body. So all > metadata analysis is still possible with an encrypted mailinglist. If > everybody uses kmail that's easy to fix with a filter - if you look at > my filter that I posted some days ago: if the mail is encrypted and > comes from e.g. "users-encrypted@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx", then replace it > with the decrypted body. That body vcontains (violating the standard) > the whole message including headers. On the sending side > (mailinglist), just replace the header with a minimal version and > random subject (e.g. date+timestamp). > > Making a shared private/public keypair for the list is used the othe > way round is no problem, as changing the private part will have no > effect. It's also convenient, as all users can use the public key to > send encrypted mail to the list. Again, kmail can handle this this > transparent for the user. > > Oh, anybody needs a tutorial? Yes Nik. > Nik > > > Best, > > Michael > > > > PS: I’m using [] around concepts, interchange with any type of ‘bad’ > > activity you want. > > ____________________________________________________ > > tde-users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Web mail archive available at > > https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@trini > >tydesktop.org Cheers, Gene Heskett. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ____________________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx