Anno domini 18:45:48 Fri, 8 Oct 2021 -0700 (PDT) Gianluca Interlandi scripsit: > The advantage of mailing list vs forum for me is that I'm "forced" to see > the discussion, so I still learn a lot. My 2 cents ... +1 And some more things to consider: - realtime chat is nice, but in reality it only works when you live in ~ the same timezone and have the chat client running. IRC is as good or bas as jabber, but IMO it's not much used by the lists audience. - how to meaningful archive that? - forums are nice, but (aside from phpbb) forum software quit a bloat on the client side nowadays and optimized for "mobile devices" aka mousecinemas. And you have to activly visit them. - lots of different services scatter information. - my intention was not to start a discussion on how to get rid of the mailinglist, but to get mails to the list past local censorship. Nik > > Gianluca > > On Fri, 8 Oct 2021, Michael wrote: > > > On Friday 08 October 2021 05:25:21 pm Edward wrote: > >> On 10/8/21 6:10 PM, William Morder via tde-users wrote: > >>> To quote myself: > >>> "It doesn't have to be xmpp/jabber. That might not be quite the right > >>> tool for the job; but I am pretty sure there must be something similar in > >>> concept that would serve our needs." > >>> > >>> My original suggestion was simply that we move toward using encryption > >>> for the TDE mailing list. It was Michael's idea to create public/private > >>> keys for the list. However, that was rejected as too user-unfriendly for > >>> noobs, which may be true. > >>> > >>> It seems to me that some people just cannot be content until they have > >>> their privacy thoroughly violated and the entire human race is turned > >>> into slaves. Resistance is futile! We will all be assimilated! > >>> > >>> So what is it to be, then? I don't especially care about what tool we > >>> use, but we ought to decide to move toward something better. > >>> > >>> Stripping email headers might at least be a good place to start. I can't > >>> tell how many email I have accidentally sent to private email addresses > >>> (or received them) just because people don't think to check before they > >>> hit send. > >>> > >>> Bill > >> > >> I don't have an issue with the current e-mail list. I think it's good to > >> have, plus there is that reference kept online, if someone accidentally > >> deletes an e-mail. > >> > >> Regarding encryption, I have seen OpenPGP icons in Thunderbird from some > >> of the e-mails coming in from the list, but have no idea how to set that > >> up. I also don't know if there is way to set it up so that it only > >> applies to the e-mail list and not to other e-mails. > > > > AFAIK it should be possible to make one key pair and share both keys with the > > whole list, just for use with this list. Everyone sends on the public key > > and everyone decodes on the private key. Yes, it technically violates the > > concept of key pairs, but we're just trying to keep the list?s content from > > being easily [data collected] and [censored] by [automated data collecting] > > mail providers(/entities). > > > > I?m going to presume that any list encryption is pointless if someone installs > > the key pair on anything except a local mail client. E.g if someone installs > > the key pair on their google web mail interface? (I didn?t think of this > > until later.) > > > > That presumption is why I suggested a forum type of replacement for the user > > lists. I?m not that up on current ?stuff? so pretty much anything that > > eliminates [automated data collecting] being easily tied to a particular > > person and/or an entity being able to [censor] participation works for me. > > > > I don?t think there is any sort of perfect solution (maybe a tor onion site, > > but ugh, that wouldn?t be user friendly at all.). > > > > Best, > > Michael > > > > PS: I?m using [] around concepts, interchange with any type of ?bad? activity > > you want. > > ____________________________________________________ > > tde-users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > ----------------------------------------------------- > Gianluca Interlandi, PhD gianluca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > +1 (206) 685 4435 > http://gianluca.today/ > > Department of Bioengineering > University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A. > ----------------------------------------------------- > ____________________________________________________ > tde-users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ... ____________________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
