Anno domini 2021 Thu, 22 Jul 21:59:13 -0400 E. Liddell scripsit: > On Fri, 23 Jul 2021 10:22:36 +1000 > "Steven D'Aprano" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 04:08:27PM -0400, E. Liddell wrote: > > > > > (My next step would be to kill PulseAudio with fire regardless of whether > > > there was a hardware problem or not, but I have no use for its extra features > > > and it's possible that you do.) > > > > It seems odd to me that your suggestion is to kill the package which > > *does* change the volume on Edward's headphones, which would leave him > > literally unable to change the volume at all. In my ignorance, that > > seems pretty counter-intuitive and unhelpful. Can you educate me please? > > PulseAudio is an additional layer on top of the *actual* Linux audio > system (ALSA). While it's no longer as buggy as it was when first > introduced, more software layers = more difficult to figure out what's > actually wrong. > > It is possible that the cause of Edward's problem is Pulse grabbing > onto something that it shouldn't. It's also possible I'm barking up the > wrong tree entirely; what I saw of Pulse in its early days makes me > inclined to distrust it, perhaps unfairly. Which happend on my devuan (and former debian) systems any time. Kmix just does not work work with pulseaudio (on my systems). What's worse: alsamixer may work or not, depending on air pressure. So my suggestion is: If kmix should change volume, remove anything pulsaudio, then reboot, doublecheck if PA is really gone. Check if the firmware for soundblaster is loaded: # dmesg |grep firm [ 5.889395] snd_hda_intel 0000:04:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware ctefx-desktop.bin .. and the try alsamixer to change volume. > (And now someone else who has a Logitech headset is going to > point to the exact problem, which will have nothing to do with any > of this, and I'm going to look like an idiot. That's okay—it won't > be the first time.) If the headset is battery powerd it might have auto-gain, but I have never seen that in real live (most likely 'cause I run from battery powerd audio stuff). If the headset has a mic, it might also have auto-gain which is powered by the mic ghost voltage. Anyway, you should be able to figure that out .. my bet is, there's no auto-gain but PA doing "interesting" things. Nik > > E. Liddell > ____________________________________________________ > tde-users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ... ____________________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
