Re: Konqueror & FAT32

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On Saturday 16 January 2021 11:57:00 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
> > On Saturday 16 January 2021 11:19:51 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
> > > > On Saturday 16 January 2021 09:46:12 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > > > > Hi all!
> > > > >
> > > > > I just found that after my latest updates to 14.0.10 I lost the
> > > > > "Delete" funtionality in konqueror. When I do a right click on at
> > > > > file on a FAT32 usb thumbdrive, then the context menu pops up with
> > > > > the "Delete" entry greyed out. Pressing "<DEL>"-key consequently
> > > > > des not delete the file nor move it to the thrashcan. Pressing
> > > > > "<shift>+<DEL>" deletes the file.
> > > > >
> > > > > Does somebody else see this, too?
> > > > >
> > > > > Nik
> > > >
> > > > I just upgraded a couple days ago, and I don't have that problem.
> > > > Everything works the same as before.
> > > >
> > > > The problem, however, may reside in the flash drive itself, and the
>
> fat32
>
> > > > filesystem. I've had problems with both flash drives and SD cards:
> > > > sometimes they mount and behave normally, sometimes not. Do you have
> > > > the delete function when you are using Konqueror with non-fat drives,
> > > > such
>
> as
>
> > > > your
> > >
> > > other
> > >
> > > > hard drives?
> > > >
> > > > You might dig up your konquerorrc file, where the delete function can
> > > > be set or unset. You might be able to override other changes by
> > > > changing that file.
> > > >
> > > > Bill
> > > > ____________________________________________________
> > >
> > > I need to use fat32 because I still have some itsinks clients
> > > (thankfully that's fading)
> > >
> > > Stock formatted usb and SD cards do exhibit problems like that in
> > > general. That's why I always format them with linux before use. I never
> > > have a problem after that.
> > >
> > > NTFS, when I have to use that crap, sometimes will. HFS doesn't give me
> > > much of a problem, less than NTFS more than fat32.
> > >
> > > Try clean formatting the drives before use and make use you chown to
> > > your user just in case.
> > >
> > > Kate
> >
> > Except ... maybe users need to use those items with other devices that do
>
> not
>
> > read Linux filesystems? e.g., SD cards in smartphones, or flash drives to
> > be used with other computers. Maybe, the unfortunate user is forced by
> > job or circumstances to take those flash drives or SD cards and use them
> > on [*SHUDDER of horror*] Windozes or Rotten Apples? In such cases, fat32
> > is
>
> read
>
> > by all of them; ext3 or ext4, not.
> >
> > 'Twould be nice if Linux could handle fat32 sometimes without having to
>
> format
>
> > it to a Linux filesystem.
> >
> > :-/
> >
> > Bill
>
> You misunderstood. Format the drives, using linux, TO fat32. They will work
> on windows and apple [*SHUDDER of horror*] etc. It's just that linux does a
> "clean" format with no empty  spaces or oddities.
>
> Kate

Yeah ... that occurred to me after I had already gone to bed for what I 
thought was a wee kip. You mentioned using NTFS, and that sort of threw me 
off. Then, half-asleep, it occurred to me that you meant to format it to 
fat32, but using a Linux machine, BEFORE ever using that flash drive or SD 
card. 

That might work better, I dunno. When I get a new SD card or flash drive, I'll 
give that a try myself. 

Bill
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