Re: Konqueror & FAT32

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On Saturday 16 January 2021, William Morder via tde-users wrote:
> On Saturday 16 January 2021 11:57:00 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
> > > On Saturday 16 January 2021 11:19:51 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday 16 January 2021 09:46:12 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > > > > > Hi all!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just found that after my latest updates to 14.0.10 I lost the
> > > > > > "Delete" funtionality in konqueror. When I do a right click on at
> > > > > > file on a FAT32 usb thumbdrive, then the context menu pops up
> > > > > > with the "Delete" entry greyed out. Pressing "<DEL>"-key
> > > > > > consequently des not delete the file nor move it to the
> > > > > > thrashcan. Pressing "<shift>+<DEL>" deletes the file.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does somebody else see this, too?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nik
> > > > >
> > > > > I just upgraded a couple days ago, and I don't have that problem.
> > > > > Everything works the same as before.
> > > > >
> > > > > The problem, however, may reside in the flash drive itself, and the
> >
> > fat32
> >
> > > > > filesystem. I've had problems with both flash drives and SD cards:
> > > > > sometimes they mount and behave normally, sometimes not. Do you
> > > > > have the delete function when you are using Konqueror with non-fat
> > > > > drives, such
> >
> > as
> >
> > > > > your
> > > >
> > > > other
> > > >
> > > > > hard drives?
> > > > >
> > > > > You might dig up your konquerorrc file, where the delete function
> > > > > can be set or unset. You might be able to override other changes by
> > > > > changing that file.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bill
> > > > > ____________________________________________________
> > > >
> > > > I need to use fat32 because I still have some itsinks clients
> > > > (thankfully that's fading)
> > > >
> > > > Stock formatted usb and SD cards do exhibit problems like that in
> > > > general. That's why I always format them with linux before use. I
> > > > never have a problem after that.
> > > >
> > > > NTFS, when I have to use that crap, sometimes will. HFS doesn't give
> > > > me much of a problem, less than NTFS more than fat32.
> > > >
> > > > Try clean formatting the drives before use and make use you chown to
> > > > your user just in case.
> > > >
> > > > Kate
> > >
> > > Except ... maybe users need to use those items with other devices that
> > > do
> >
> > not
> >
> > > read Linux filesystems? e.g., SD cards in smartphones, or flash drives
> > > to be used with other computers. Maybe, the unfortunate user is forced
> > > by job or circumstances to take those flash drives or SD cards and use
> > > them on [*SHUDDER of horror*] Windozes or Rotten Apples? In such cases,
> > > fat32 is
> >
> > read
> >
> > > by all of them; ext3 or ext4, not.
> > >
> > > 'Twould be nice if Linux could handle fat32 sometimes without having to
> >
> > format
> >
> > > it to a Linux filesystem.
> > >
> > > :-/
> > >
> > > Bill
> >
> > You misunderstood. Format the drives, using linux, TO fat32. They will
> > work on windows and apple [*SHUDDER of horror*] etc. It's just that linux
> > does a "clean" format with no empty  spaces or oddities.
> >
> > Kate
>
> Yeah ... that occurred to me after I had already gone to bed for what I
> thought was a wee kip. You mentioned using NTFS, and that sort of threw me
> off. Then, half-asleep, it occurred to me that you meant to format it to
> fat32, but using a Linux machine, BEFORE ever using that flash drive or SD
> card.
>
> That might work better, I dunno. When I get a new SD card or flash drive,
> I'll give that a try myself.
>
> Bill
> ____________________________________________________
It doesn't matter if they drive has been used. You can back it up and format 
it clean.

Kate
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