On Tuesday 01 September 2020 09:38:31 pm greg wrote: > ‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ > > On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 3:08 PM, J Leslie Turriff <jlturriff@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 2020-09-01 16:42:50 deloptes wrote: > > > Thierry de Coulon wrote: > > > > From a search I get that mass storage was dropped when Android/Google > > > > increased "data scurity" on the phones. Why we are not allowed to > > > > take responsibility for the security of our data I don't know. > > > > I guess that any newer Android version will be MTP only. I did try > > > > various Linux OSes on a PinePhone and I nust say the results are - > > > > for the time being - quite devastating. The device is slow, and the > > > > OS are far from ready, to the point that many can't even... phone. > > > > Apps don't adapt to the screen, most don't rotate (and usually only > > > > manualy if they do). There's no camera suppport or very bad if any. > > > > I don't use my phone much, and I I still use a "real" camera for > > > > pictures, but even so I'm not abandonning my compact Sony for a > > > > while. > > > > > > I started using Nokia N9 when the whole madness around "smart" kicked > > > in. It was a kind of debian OS (MeeGo) and it is still a great phone. > > > Few years later when Nokia gave up the guys that were working on N9 > > > founded Jolla and 2016 I bought the Intex AquaFish, that unfortunately > > > finally ended in the hands of my wife. 2017 it was not possible to > > > purchase the Intex anymore, because production was too expensive and > > > Jolla was in bad shape (They failed on the hardware manufacturing > > > costs). I went for Sony Xperia X where you could flash the Saialfish OS > > > and I am still using it today as primary phone. Licensed (29,-€) > > > version has Dalvik and you can run Android apps as well. I tried last > > > year XA2 (which has a newer Dalvik), but I failed flashing it and > > > returned as I did not have the time to investigate. At the moment I can > > > not find hardware (latest is Xperia 10 or so but is also out of stock). > > > Long story short there are only few meaningful alternatives to Android > > > and iOS and there is nothing for my pocket - Librem 5 > > > (https://shop.puri.sm/shop/librem-5/) $750,- or PinePhone that you > > > described very well. > > > I would like to try librem-5 but 750 is simply too much and I am not > > > sure it will cover my daily use cases. > > > In 2016 I was already familiar with Qt, so Sailfish seemed to be a good > > > choice and things that worked on the N9 still work on the Sailfish > > > (well some had to be recompiled and pimped of course). But at the > > > moment I have peace. > > > It is indeed very very hard to swim against the mainstream on the phone > > > market. Incredible (IMO)! > > > > Yep; way too many unchecked monopolies in the "technology" world today. > > well said, my experience also. > > My solution is pay for webmail, protonmail, mykolab. encrypted (end to > end). > > > I have been following /e/. /e/ provides a "de-googleized" android, supports > quite a few phones if you are into flashing stuff. /e/ also sells phones > pre-installed. > > > https://e.foundation/ , Europe..I wonder if the phones would work in the > USA. https://doc.e.foundation/devices/ Number of Smartphones officially supported by /e/OS : 93 Select Region: North America -No results found- Bummer, although I wasn't that happy with their you must have an /e/ account? (I could have read that wrong though) Thanks for the link!, Michael --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting