‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 3:08 PM, J Leslie Turriff <jlturriff@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 2020-09-01 16:42:50 deloptes wrote: > > > Thierry de Coulon wrote: > > > > > From a search I get that mass storage was dropped when Android/Google > > > increased "data scurity" on the phones. Why we are not allowed to take > > > responsibility for the security of our data I don't know. > > > I guess that any newer Android version will be MTP only. I did try > > > various Linux OSes on a PinePhone and I nust say the results are - for > > > the time being - quite devastating. The device is slow, and the OS are > > > far from ready, to the point that many can't even... phone. Apps don't > > > adapt to the screen, most don't rotate (and usually only manualy if they > > > do). There's no camera suppport or very bad if any. > > > I don't use my phone much, and I I still use a "real" camera for > > > pictures, but even so I'm not abandonning my compact Sony for a while. > > > > I started using Nokia N9 when the whole madness around "smart" kicked in. > > It was a kind of debian OS (MeeGo) and it is still a great phone. > > Few years later when Nokia gave up the guys that were working on N9 founded > > Jolla and 2016 I bought the Intex AquaFish, that unfortunately finally > > ended in the hands of my wife. 2017 it was not possible to purchase the > > Intex anymore, because production was too expensive and Jolla was in bad > > shape (They failed on the hardware manufacturing costs). I went for Sony > > Xperia X where you could flash the Saialfish OS and I am still using it > > today as primary phone. Licensed (29,-€) version has Dalvik and you can run > > Android apps as well. I tried last year XA2 (which has a newer Dalvik), but > > I failed flashing it and returned as I did not have the time to > > investigate. At the moment I can not find hardware (latest is Xperia 10 or > > so but is also out of stock). > > Long story short there are only few meaningful alternatives to Android and > > iOS and there is nothing for my pocket - Librem 5 > > (https://shop.puri.sm/shop/librem-5/) $750,- or PinePhone that you > > described very well. > > I would like to try librem-5 but 750 is simply too much and I am not sure > > it will cover my daily use cases. > > In 2016 I was already familiar with Qt, so Sailfish seemed to be a good > > choice and things that worked on the N9 still work on the Sailfish (well > > some had to be recompiled and pimped of course). But at the moment I have > > peace. > > It is indeed very very hard to swim against the mainstream on the phone > > market. Incredible (IMO)! > > Yep; way too many unchecked monopolies in the "technology" world today. well said, my experience also. My solution is pay for webmail, protonmail, mykolab. encrypted (end to end). I have been following /e/. /e/ provides a "de-googleized" android, supports quite a few phones if you are into flashing stuff. /e/ also sells phones pre-installed. https://e.foundation/ , Europe..I wonder if the phones would work in the USA. greg
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