On Saturday 07 December 2019 18:42:25 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 07 December 2019 21:05:09 William Morder via trinity-users > > wrote: > > On Saturday 07 December 2019 16:16:30 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Saturday 07 December 2019 18:11:26 E. Liddell wrote: > > > > On Sat, 7 Dec 2019 12:02:31 -0500 > > > > > > > > Gene Heskett <gheskett@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > On Saturday 07 December 2019 10:05:31 Michael wrote: > > > > > > “touch” will let you change Access and Modify datetimes. > > > > > > > > > > Humm, but I want to modify the creation times, to make that > > > > > equal arrival time from the date/time of arrival from > > > > > $servername in the header. Even the pinfo version can only > > > > > diddle access (atime) and modify time (mtime) but no mention of > > > > > ctime is made. That sounds like I am screwed. Do we have > > > > > anything which can diddle the ctime's? > > > > > > > > From the look of it, it's intentionally difficult to modify on > > > > command. Calling chown on the file will set the ctime to the > > > > current time (even if the file's ownership isn't actually > > > > changed), so you can diddle the system time then do that. Most of > > > > the other methods seem to involve debugfs, virtual machines, and > > > > other exotica. > > > > > > > > You know, if you don't need access to all of your old email > > > > constantly, you could just turn your mail directory into a > > > > symlink, split the last year or two of mail off into a separate > > > > directory from the older stuff and point the symlink there, and > > > > redirect the symlink if you need the older mail. Or split the > > > > older mail off into a separate user account. Because it really > > > > seems like you're going to a lot of trouble for very little return > > > > here. > > > > > > I'm forced to agree. But if I have to do that, its likely I'll just > > > jump ship to claws or even (spit) t-bird. This has been bugging me > > > off and on for at least 5 years, and I've been mostly ignored, sent > > > hundreds of crash reports all to no avail as far as solving the > > > problem is concerned. Paypal has no clue who Tim is, so I've not > > > been able to contribute, which bothers the hell outta me as a firm > > > believer in TANSTAAFL. Not having paid my dues, I don't feel like I > > > can demand. > > > > > > Wrong list, but can claws handle a 20+ gig corpus of email > > > stretching back 20 years? > > > > > > > E. Liddell > > > > > > Thanks, E. Lidell > > > > Myself, I would archive the "really" old stuff (everything older than > > some arbitrary date). Put it somewhere safe, like on a separate drive, > > or at least in a separate folder, so that Kmail doesn't get into it. > > > > Best guess is that it is just the size of your archive that is causing > > the problems. How often do you actually search back into your archives > > for an email older than, say, 6 months or a year past? > > Just this past week I went looking for something in the emc list, and > found the msg in the folder for 2012. Thats admittedly a bit old, but it > answered the question. Normal searches are usually hit in the same year > as current. > > > If you need to search the archives, deal with that problem as the need > > arises, rather than fighting this same losing battle, over and over, > > for little or no useful purpose. > > > > By the way, I have used Claws and Sylpheed just a little. (I believe > > Sylpheed was forked from Claws, or the other way around.) I was > > interested in getting a cross-platform email client, so that I could > > use a portable app on a flash drive, if I am ever out and about. They > > > > work okay, but they lack the functionality of Kmail. > > Thats been my impression also. And I think the problems with kmail are > directly related to its 32 bit parentage. Due to a combination of weird circumstances, I am running 32-bit, so you could be right. But I intend to upgrade in the next few months, so that I can get into the latest Debian/Devuan releases, Buster, etc. > If someone were to go thru it > and size every pointer or counter for a 64 bit system, I'd bet a case of > your favorite suds this would all go away. That would be Guinness Stout, either real draught (a keg, not in the cans), or the regular bottles. I am also aching to find Guinness (Russian) Imperial Stout. I hear it is really something. Damn, now I will have to go out to get some Guinness, and I blame it all on you, Gene. > But it might take 2 or 3 > man/months to check and adjust it all. And THAT isn't going to be done > just because those coders love it, they like eating and sleeping in warm > houses etc too. Its past time we users spoke with our wallets again. > Paypal has since improved their service, so I've got another hundred > bucks to go with the hundred I tried to give the last time Tim asked for > money. All I need is a paypal address that works. > Cheers, Gene Heskett Yup, I promised to send a donation for the Trinity project, and it is a point of honor, but now I am wondering where to send the money. I would prefer just to send a check (or cheque), or at least use my credit card, rather than PayPal. Bill --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting
