Re: [BULK] Re: [trinity-users] Re: [BULK] Re: [trinity-users] Re: [BULK] Re: [trinity-users] my KMail problems, continued

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On Saturday 07 December 2019 21:05:09 William Morder via trinity-users 
wrote:

> On Saturday 07 December 2019 16:16:30 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Saturday 07 December 2019 18:11:26 E. Liddell wrote:
> > > On Sat, 7 Dec 2019 12:02:31 -0500
> > >
> > > Gene Heskett <gheskett@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > On Saturday 07 December 2019 10:05:31 Michael wrote:
> > > > > “touch” will let you change Access and Modify datetimes.
> > > >
> > > > Humm, but I want to modify the creation times, to make that
> > > > equal arrival time from the date/time of arrival from
> > > > $servername in the header. Even the pinfo version can only
> > > > diddle access (atime) and modify time (mtime) but no mention of
> > > > ctime is made.  That sounds like I am screwed. Do we have
> > > > anything which can diddle the ctime's?
> > >
> > > From the look of it, it's intentionally difficult to modify on
> > > command. Calling chown on the file will set the ctime to the
> > > current time (even if the file's ownership isn't actually
> > > changed), so you can diddle the system time then do that.  Most of
> > > the other methods seem to involve debugfs, virtual machines, and
> > > other exotica.
> > >
> > > You know, if you don't need access to all of your old email
> > > constantly, you could just turn your mail directory into a
> > > symlink, split the last year or two of mail off into a separate
> > > directory from the older stuff and point the symlink there, and
> > > redirect the symlink if you need the older mail.  Or split the
> > > older mail off into a separate user account.  Because it really
> > > seems like you're going to a lot of trouble for very little return
> > > here.
> >
> > I'm forced to agree.  But if I have to do that, its likely I'll just
> > jump ship to claws or even (spit) t-bird.  This has been bugging me
> > off and on for at least 5 years, and I've been mostly ignored, sent
> > hundreds of crash reports all to no avail as far as solving the
> > problem is concerned. Paypal has no clue who Tim is, so I've not
> > been able to contribute, which bothers the hell outta me as a firm
> > believer in TANSTAAFL.  Not having paid my dues, I don't feel like I
> > can demand.
> >
> > Wrong list, but can claws handle a 20+ gig corpus of email
> > stretching back 20 years?
> >
> > > E. Liddell
> >
> > Thanks, E. Lidell
>
> Myself, I would archive the "really" old stuff (everything older than
> some arbitrary date). Put it somewhere safe, like on a separate drive,
> or at least in a separate folder, so that Kmail doesn't get into it.
>
> Best guess is that it is just the size of your archive that is causing
> the problems. How often do you actually search back into your archives
> for an email older than, say, 6 months or a year past?
>
Just this past week I went looking for something in the emc list, and 
found the msg in the folder for 2012. Thats admittedly a bit old, but it 
answered the question. Normal searches are usually hit in the same year 
as current.

> If you need to search the archives, deal with that problem as the need
> arises, rather than fighting this same losing battle, over and over,
> for little or no useful purpose.
>
> By the way, I have used Claws and Sylpheed just a little. (I believe
> Sylpheed was forked from Claws, or the other way around.) I was
> interested in getting a cross-platform email client, so that I could
> use a portable app on a flash drive, if I am ever out and about. They

> work okay, but they lack the functionality of Kmail.

Thats been my impression also. And I think the problems with  kmail are 
directly related to its 32 bit parentage. If someone were to go thru it 
and size every pointer or counter for a 64 bit system, I'd bet a case of 
your favorite suds this would all go away.  But it might take 2 or 3 
man/months to check and adjust it all.  And THAT isn't going to be done 
just because those coders love it, they like eating and sleeping in warm 
houses etc too. Its past time we users spoke with our wallets again.  
Paypal has since improved their service, so I've got another hundred 
bucks to go with the hundred I tried to give the last time Tim asked for 
money.  All I need is a paypal address that works. 
>
> Bill
>
>
>
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Cheers, Gene Heskett
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