Re: Mascot Contest submission -- Tristian

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Alexis PM via tde-devels wrote:

> >> Alexis PM via tde-devels wrote:
>>>> My suggestions:
>>>>
>>>> 1) December as a working period for submitting new proposals, resolve
>>>> this in January. December is a month with numerous holidays in many
>>>> countries, artists who may be too busy the rest of the year may have
>>>> more free time this month.
>>>
>>> good point, I also agree with this
>>>
>>
>> Yes I agree. December is a good time to get calm and dreaming. This could
>> be a good time for other ideas and creativity. It would be great if new
>> graphics could be prepared during January to March so that we can
>> integrate it into upcoming R14.1.0.
>>
>>>> 2) Announce on the front page of the TDE website that there is an open
>>>> call for designs for new project mascot. Enable web form or email to
>>>> which to send proposals.
>>>>
>>
>> Yes, a short website announcement could be good.
>> Or at least email to announcements ML.
>>
>> I don't know if it makes sense to create a separate mail address or a
>> special web page. The possibilities were considered either sending a
>> mailing to devels ML or creating a page on tde TDE Wiki.
> 
> In my humble opinion, a web form on the TDE website is the best option. It
> is an ideal way to organize the submission of proposals, it allows to
> establish mandatory fields such as real name and email (without being
> publicly visible) and to accept some minimum legal conditions (basically:
> that the person declares that it is his original work and has not been
> transferred to anyone, that this work has not been or is not used as a
> recognizable image by another initiative, project or organization, and
> that the person freely and completely gives it to TDE for free and without
> any condition beyond the cite of the original creator -the name or
> pseudonym of the author's choice- on the TDE website). (The real name is
> for legal reasons associated with the minimum legal conditions).
> 
> An additional requirement is the format: Source or editable format
> (Blender .blend, Inkscape .svg, GIMP .xcf,...) must be provided, not only
> the export to image, because the mascot must be integrated with the logo
> and other artwork of the project, now and in the future.
>

perfectly said
 
>>>> 3) Announce the call for designs for new project mascot on websites
>>>> and user mailing lists of artistic free software projects, for example
>>>> websites and user mailing lists of Blender, Krita, GIMP,...
> 
> I add (I forgot) Inkscape to the enumeration.
> 
>> I have doubt about whether it could be beneficial to send challenges to
>> other communities than that are interested in the development of TDE.
> 
> Double benefits:
> 
> * It opens the doors of participation to a much larger community. There
> are many people who have fun drawing with Blender/Inkscape/Krita/GIMP just
> for leisure and even if they are not TDE users they will be very happy
> that their leisure creation is useful for a free software project.
> 
> * The advertisement itself serves as publicity for the project: it makes
> the project known to free software users who are not aware of its
> existence (or who assume that this KDE-3 fork must have died because years
> later it is not in the Debian repo). There will be people that even if
> they do not participate with pet drawings, they will be curious about this
> unknown desktop environment and it is possible that a percentage of people
> will even be encouraged to use it and/or make some mention or article in
> their circles.
> 
> Although there are people who are very committed to TDE and who do it very
> well, the small number of people actively involved in its development is a
> danger to the medium-term survival of TDE. Increasing the number of people
> is good for TDE. I don't want you to stop being who you are, but more
> human power in TDE is good. For example, I have reported again in the
> "new" bug tracker (gitea) the historical quanta bug VPL with the accents
> in VPL, quanta is the best free HTML editor that exists and it is a pain
> when I teach HTML learning courses to warn the students to avoid the
> accents error in VPL, I have clear that fixing this bug pending for many
> years is due to the lack of people and time to do it but Slavek and
> company can only thank you for the voluntary work you do to keep this
> alive.
> 

also very good argument

> 4)
>>> The user and dev community can vote for the mascot somehow
>>> It would be fully democratic and legit for me even if it is Tristan the
>>> Bear
> 
> I agree.
> 
>>> My requirement is that it somehow attaches to the old KDE and to Trinity
>>> ... so it could be a three headed dragon or similar
>>>
>>> Tristan and the bear are far away from the connotations I have with the
>>> words Trinity and the KDE3 now TDE.
>>
>> The requirement that the new mascot should be connected with the original
>> KDE mascot does not seem good to me. On the contrary, it seems better if
>> the new mascot will be obviously different, not another dragon variant.
>> Although I like the dragons, I also like bears. I like proposal from
>> Phillipe. And Tristian / Tee seems to me a very beautiful name.
> 
> I suggest not to put additional conditions to the mascot design.
> Personally if someone submits a nice dragon, it probably will win my
> heart. But I think every artist should be free to design the mascot they
> want and the TDE community should be free to choose a mascot other than a
> dragon. Maybe the new mascot will be a bear, an arctic fox, a parrot or a
> frog (there are blue parrots and frogs if you care about color) and we
> will be very happy.
> 
> If it's the name, there are already legendary dragons like the
> (Babylonian) Tiamat and the (Chinese) Tianlong, which we can
> affectionately call Ti ;)
> 


Both is important - the name and the thing and also the tradition conneting
to the dragon. 

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