On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 09:43:00 -0700 "Alec Destry" <xode@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" <office@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <devels@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 2:52 AM > Subject: Re: Status of TDE ARK timestamp for files in ZIP > archive. > > > > Anno domini 2021 Tue, 27 Jul 01:16:01 -0700 > > Alec Destry scripsit: > >>[...] > >> "ark-trinity 4:14.1.0~s211-0debian11.0.0+10~a" > >> --> This suggests you're using a KDE4 version of ARK which doesn't have > >> that > >> problem. Unfortunately, KDE4 ARK doesn't work well with a KDE3.5 GUI and > >> a > >> KDE4/KDE5 GUI is very inflexible and unfriendly. > >> > >> How does "ark-trinity 4:14.1.0~s211-0debian11.0.0+10~a" relate to > >> "trinity-ark-14.0.10-1.oss151.x86_64.rpm"? > > > > Definitly no KDE4 :) > > 14.1.X is the dev version, 14.0.X is the "normal" version. > > So, you're stating this problem has been fixed for > trinity-ark-14.0.10-1.oss151.src.rpm and I could download that? Then, I > could look for the corresponding source code for ARK there, replace the part > of the source code in the KDE 3.5 RPM that has the problem with that from > TDE, and compile a KDE3.5 ARK that doesn't have the problem? The problem has been fixed since at least TDE version 14.0.8, possibly earlier, so yes, that RPM should contain the fixes if it contains the full source. Alternatively, you can pull the appropriate source package from http://tde-mirror.yosemite.net/trinity/releases/R14.0.10/main/core/tdeutils-trinity-14.0.10.tar.xz or use git to examine only the files that interest you: https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tdeutils/src/branch/master/ark Whether or not you can extract the relevant patches from the other changes is another question, but you're welcome to try. > >> "But this has been fixed ages ago, can't even remeber that beeing an > >> issue." > >> --> It hasn't been fixed for KDE3.5 ARK, which is "supported" by > >> OpenSuse, > >> where "supported" means they only make the packages available but don't > >> keep > >> them updated. > > > > TDE split from KDE ~ 10 years ago. KDE of OpenSuse does not relate to TDE. > > > > That would be great if that were entirely true. Then, I would be able to > install TDE as a separate available desktop alongside the KDE3.5 desktop I > currently have installed, and continue to use KDE3.5 for the everyday work I > need to use it for, while I working through TDE and getting that set up so > it has the exact same look and feel, and functionality, that I need, as the > KDE3.5 I'm currently using for everyday work. Unfortunately, the TDE > documentation states that TDE can't be installed alongside KDE3.5, since the > two are still enough alike that one would trash the other, unlike, for > example XFCE being installed alongside KDE3.5 where, at the login screen, > you could choose to start XFCE instead of KDE3.5. Or, is that no longer > true, and TDE could be installed alongside the KDE3.5 I'm currently using? It's complicated. You certainly can't install the standard precompiled packages using your package manager without the possibility of accidentally clobbering some things. You might be able to make it work by compiling TDE from source, installing to (if necessary) something other than the standard location, and modifying the starttde and startkde scripts to manage PATH and such so that the directories searched first for components match the desktop you're using at the time. (This was the approach Gentoo used to allow KDE3 and KDE4 to be installed side-by-side on the same machine back in the day.) You'd also have to back up your user configuration data, because some of the TDE installation scripts will update the KDE3 data for TDE's use. If running both side-by-side sounds like something you really want to do, I'd try it inside a VM first, or at least install first to a chroot so that you can check for file clobbers. You can also use a plain TDE VM or live CD to test to see whether or not any of the changes made since KDE3 will disrupt your workflow. Part of the point of TDE has been not to make significant changes to how the desktop works, though—there are a sprinkling of replacement graphics, but few other visible changes. E. Liddell ____________________________________________________ tde-devels mailing list -- devels@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devels-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/devels@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
