On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 16:17 (-0500), E. Liddell wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 11:39:42 -0400
> Jim via tde-devels <devels@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 19:00 (+0100), Slávek Banko via tde-devels wrote:
>>> On Wednesday 13 of January 2021 18:42:12 Jim via tde-devels wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 17:36 (+0100), Slávek Banko via tde-devels
>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday 13 of January 2021 16:49:00 Jim via tde-devels wrote:
>>>>>> ADDITIONAL INFORMATION which may or may not help:
>>>>>> When I start up kcontrol, the pane on the left which should have all
>>>>>> sort of things (in an older version of TFE on another computer I have
>>>>>> "Appearance & Themes", "Desktop", "Internet & Network", and so on)
>>>>>> is empty. Â So, again, it can't find whatever it is looking for.
<snip>
>>> Can you try it in a full TDE session?
>> Yes, as described above, if by "full session" we mean do both
>> -> use tdm display manager
>> and
>> -> start TDE session
>> then it works.
>> Given my "essentially nil" understanding of the code base, I don't
>> know if I can be much help tracking this down, but if you want me to
>> give something a try, just let me know.
> If I try to bring up kcontrol when su'd to root inside a konsole
> window, I get a blank left panel in kcontrol and the following:
> ryu ~ # kcontrol
> [tdebuildsycoca] tdebuildsycoca running...
> [2021/01/14 15:52:02.413] [dcopserver] DCOP Cleaning up dead connections.
> [2021/01/14 15:52:02.451] [kcontrol] WARNING: No TDE menu group with X-TDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! Defaulting to Settings/
> The left panel is populated if I open kcontrol from the command line as the
> logged-in user, and the buildsycoca, DCOP, and warning messages are not printed.
> So the problem is either something DCOPish, or something to do with that
> warning message. Probably.
> Jim, can you test to see if you get the same messages, so we can make sure
> I'm not conflating two different problems?
Given that it works when I run from a "full TDE session", I am running
these commands from my trusty fvwm2 session, as started by xdm.
[tdebuildsycoca] tdebuildsycoca running...
[2021/01/14 17:31:29.641] [tdebuildsycoca] Reusing existing tdesycoca.
[2021/01/14 17:31:29.860] [tdebuildsycoca] ERROR: tde-applications.menu not found in (/home/zsd/.rpi4-4-files/config/menus/,/etc/xdg/menus/)
[2021/01/14 17:31:29.956] [dcopserver] DCOP Cleaning up dead connections.
[2021/01/14 17:31:30.306] [kcontrol] WARNING: No TDE menu group with X-TDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! Defaulting to Settings/
I quit kcontrol and then a minute (or so) later ran it again. This time
I got
[tdebuildsycoca] tdebuildsycoca running...
[2021/01/14 17:33:22.228] [kcontrol] WARNING: No TDE menu group with X-TDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! Defaulting to Settings/
Twenty minutes later I ran it once more:
[tdebuildsycoca] tdebuildsycoca running...
[2021/01/14 17:53:32.414] [dcopserver] DCOP Cleaning up dead connections.
[2021/01/14 17:53:33.073] [kcontrol] WARNING: No TDE menu group with X-TDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! Defaulting to Settings/
How exactly did you su to root? If I just "su", /opt/trinity/bin is
in my PATH, whereas if I "sudo su" it is not. For the root output
below, I just did "su". And to start with a clean config, I did the
rm shown below
root@rpi4-4:/scratch/tmp# rm -rf ~/.cache ~/.ICEauthority ~/.config /tmp/tde*root /tmp/.ICE-unix/
root@rpi4-4:/scratch/tmp# kcontrol
/usr/bin/iceauth: creating new authority file /root/.ICEauthority
[tdebuildsycoca] tdebuildsycoca running...
[2021/01/14 19:31:17.736] [kcontrol] WARNING: No TDE menu group with X-TDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! Defaulting to Settings/
And no info in the left pane.
As an added bonus, here are the (apparently) relevant processes:
root 10818 1.0 0.6 49132 26780 pts/1 S 19:31 0:00 kcontrol
root 10823 0.0 0.2 36836 10824 ? Ss 19:31 0:00 [tdeinit] tdeinit Running...
root 10828 0.0 0.2 36600 8832 ? S 19:31 0:00 dcopserver [tdeinit] --nosid --suicide
root 10831 0.0 0.3 37900 14684 ? S 19:31 0:00 tdelauncher [tdeinit] --new-startup
root 10833 0.0 0.4 38308 16076 ? S 19:31 0:00 kded [tdeinit] --new-startup
root 10908 0.0 0.3 37340 11872 ? S 19:31 0:00 tdeio_file [tdeinit] file /tmp/tdesocket-root/
root 10909 0.0 0.3 37340 11872 ? S 19:31 0:00 tdeio_file [tdeinit] file /tmp/tdesocket-root/
root 10910 0.0 0.3 37340 11872 ? S 19:31 0:00 tdeio_file [tdeinit] file /tmp/tdesocket-root/
root 10911 0.0 0.3 37340 11872 ? S 19:31 0:00 tdeio_file [tdeinit] file /tmp/tdesocket-root/
If that information is not what you are looking for, let me know.
Jim
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