On 2021-01-14 17:34:03 Jim via tde-devels wrote: > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 16:17 (-0500), E. Liddell wrote: > > On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 11:39:42 -0400 > > > > Jim via tde-devels <devels@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 19:00 (+0100), Slávek Banko via tde-devels wrote: > >>> On Wednesday 13 of January 2021 18:42:12 Jim via tde-devels wrote: > >>>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 17:36 (+0100), Slávek Banko via tde-devels > >>> > >>> wrote: > >>>>> On Wednesday 13 of January 2021 16:49:00 Jim via tde-devels wrote: > >>>>>> ADDITIONAL INFORMATION which may or may not help: > >>>>>> When I start up kcontrol, the pane on the left which should have all > >>>>>> sort of things (in an older version of TFE on another computer I > >>>>>> have "Appearance & Themes", "Desktop", "Internet & Network", and so > >>>>>> on) is empty.  So, again, it can't find whatever it is looking for. > > <snip> > > >>> Can you try it in a full TDE session? > >> > >> Yes, as described above, if by "full session" we mean do both > >> -> use tdm display manager > >> and > >> -> start TDE session > >> then it works. > >> > >> > >> Given my "essentially nil" understanding of the code base, I don't > >> know if I can be much help tracking this down, but if you want me to > >> give something a try, just let me know. > > > > If I try to bring up kcontrol when su'd to root inside a konsole > > window, I get a blank left panel in kcontrol and the following: > > > > ryu ~ # kcontrol > > [tdebuildsycoca] tdebuildsycoca running... > > [2021/01/14 15:52:02.413] [dcopserver] DCOP Cleaning up dead connections. > > [2021/01/14 15:52:02.451] [kcontrol] WARNING: No TDE menu group with > > X-TDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! Defaulting to Settings/ > > > > The left panel is populated if I open kcontrol from the command line as > > the logged-in user, and the buildsycoca, DCOP, and warning messages are > > not printed. > > > > So the problem is either something DCOPish, or something to do with that > > warning message. Probably. > > > > Jim, can you test to see if you get the same messages, so we can make > > sure I'm not conflating two different problems? > > Given that it works when I run from a "full TDE session", I am running > these commands from my trusty fvwm2 session, as started by xdm. > > > > [tdebuildsycoca] tdebuildsycoca running... > [2021/01/14 17:31:29.641] [tdebuildsycoca] Reusing existing tdesycoca. > [2021/01/14 17:31:29.860] [tdebuildsycoca] ERROR: tde-applications.menu not > found in (/home/zsd/.rpi4-4-files/config/menus/,/etc/xdg/menus/) > [2021/01/14 17:31:29.956] [dcopserver] DCOP Cleaning up dead connections. > [2021/01/14 17:31:30.306] [kcontrol] WARNING: No TDE menu group with > X-TDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! Defaulting to Settings/ > > I quit kcontrol and then a minute (or so) later ran it again. This time > I got > > [tdebuildsycoca] tdebuildsycoca running... > [2021/01/14 17:33:22.228] [kcontrol] WARNING: No TDE menu group with > X-TDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! Defaulting to Settings/ > > Twenty minutes later I ran it once more: > > [tdebuildsycoca] tdebuildsycoca running... > [2021/01/14 17:53:32.414] [dcopserver] DCOP Cleaning up dead connections. > [2021/01/14 17:53:33.073] [kcontrol] WARNING: No TDE menu group with > X-TDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! Defaulting to Settings/ > > > > How exactly did you su to root? If I just "su", /opt/trinity/bin is > in my PATH, whereas if I "sudo su" it is not. You probably want to use su -, not just su. From info su: | -, -l, --login | Start the shell as a login shell with an environment similar to a real login: | o clears all the environment variables except TERM and variables specified by --whitelist-environment | o initializes the environment variables HOME, SHELL, USER, LOGNAME, and PATH | o changes to the target user's home directory | o sets argv[0] of the shell to '-' in order to make the shell a login shell Without the login option, you're still pointing to your own home directory and various environment variables, but running with root privileges. Leslie > For the root output > below, I just did "su". And to start with a clean config, I did the > rm shown below > > root@rpi4-4:/scratch/tmp# rm -rf ~/.cache ~/.ICEauthority ~/.config > /tmp/tde*root /tmp/.ICE-unix/ root@rpi4-4:/scratch/tmp# kcontrol > /usr/bin/iceauth: creating new authority file /root/.ICEauthority > [tdebuildsycoca] tdebuildsycoca running... > [2021/01/14 19:31:17.736] [kcontrol] WARNING: No TDE menu group with > X-TDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! Defaulting to Settings/ > > And no info in the left pane. > > > As an added bonus, here are the (apparently) relevant processes: > > root 10818 1.0 0.6 49132 26780 pts/1 S 19:31 0:00 kcontrol > root 10823 0.0 0.2 36836 10824 ? Ss 19:31 0:00 [tdeinit] > tdeinit Running... root 10828 0.0 0.2 36600 8832 ? S > 19:31 0:00 dcopserver [tdeinit] --nosid --suicide root 10831 0.0 > 0.3 37900 14684 ? S 19:31 0:00 tdelauncher [tdeinit] > --new-startup root 10833 0.0 0.4 38308 16076 ? S 19:31 > 0:00 kded [tdeinit] --new-startup root 10908 0.0 0.3 37340 11872 ? > S 19:31 0:00 tdeio_file [tdeinit] file /tmp/tdesocket-root/ root > 10909 0.0 0.3 37340 11872 ? S 19:31 0:00 tdeio_file > [tdeinit] file /tmp/tdesocket-root/ root 10910 0.0 0.3 37340 11872 ? > S 19:31 0:00 tdeio_file [tdeinit] file /tmp/tdesocket-root/ > root 10911 0.0 0.3 37340 11872 ? S 19:31 0:00 tdeio_file > [tdeinit] file /tmp/tdesocket-root/ > > > If that information is not what you are looking for, let me know. > > Jim > ____________________________________________________ > tde-devels mailing list -- devels@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devels-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Web mail archive available at > https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/devels@trinitydesk >top.org Leslie -- ____________________________________________________ tde-devels mailing list -- devels@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devels-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/devels@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
