Re: systemd prerelease 256-rc1

[Lennart Poettering <lennart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Fr, 26.04.24 09:47, Neal Gompa (ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx) wrote:

> > > >         * systemd-gpt-auto-generator will stop generating units for ESP or
> > > >           XBOOTLDR partitions if it finds mount entries for or below the /boot/
> > > >           or /efi/ hierarchies in /etc/fstab. This is to prevent the generator
> > > >           from interfering with systems where the ESP is explicitly configured
> > > >           to be mounted at some path, for example /boot/efi/ (this type of
> > > >           setup is obsolete, but still commonly found).
> > >
> > > This is not obsolete. Please do not say it is when it is not true.
> >
> > Uh, we mark outdated concepts as obsolete all the time. You might
> > disagree with that, but that doesn't change the fact that from our PoV
> > /boot/efi/ is obsolete, just like split /usr/, or cgroupv1.
> >
> > Nesting /efi/ in /boot/ is bad for plenty reasons, as has been widely
> > discussed, so I am not going to repeat this here. And this has been
> > communicated for multiple years now, and all the automatisms in
> > systemd do not work for such a setup, hence I think saying that this
> > setup is obsolete by now is not an understatement.
> >
> > I know that Fedora is sadly behind on boot loader topics, but that's
> > no reason for changing our stance from systemd upstream on these
> > things.
>
> There are fewer distros using /efi than /boot/efi, and no major
> distributions that use /boot/efi.
>
> Complaining about it being a Fedora thing (which I guess I need to
> remind this audience that I am involved in more than Fedora, and every
> distribution I work on does use /boot/efi instead of /efi) is weird
> since it's not just Fedora. It's pretty much everyone.

Yeah, as the NEWS entry says, /boot/efi/ is commonly found. So?
Doesn't change the fact it's a bad idea and from systemd's PoV an
obsolete concept.

Lennart

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