Hey Lennart, Yes, I was referring to man pages I read a few years ago when I used sd_bus_get_timeout() for the first time. And, before posting this mail, I also checked on my current Linux development machine, which has systemd v247. So I was not that far :-) The fixed wording in v250 is correct, understandable and explicit to me. All good now. Thanks a lot. Stanislav. ------- Original Message ------- On Monday, January 9th, 2023 at 1:02 PM, Lennart Poettering <lennart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mo, 09.01.23 12:53, Lennart Poettering (lennart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > > https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/sd_bus_get_fd.html#Description > > > > Note that the returned time-value is absolute, based of > > CLOCK_MONOTONIC and specified in microseconds. When converting > > this value in order to pass it as third argument to poll() (which > > expects relative milliseconds), care should be taken to convert to > > a relative time and use a division that rounds up to ensure the > > I/O polling operation doesn't sleep for shorter than necessary, > > which might result in unintended busy looping (alternatively, use > > ppoll(2) instead of plain poll(), which understands timeouts with > > nano-second granularity). > > > > That's pretty explicit already, no? > > > This was fixed in 2021 btw, 25060a570c106cf5a14a3268bb0d38d9feb7fdab > i.e. systemd 250. Upgrade! > > > (I mean, you have half a point, the first sentence of the explanation > > might people think this was a relative timeout, but we all read the > > full documentation, no, before actually using this API, no? ;-)) > > > > Anyway, will prep a fix that rewords the first sentence to make this > > clearer right away. > > > https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/25985 > > Lennart > > -- > Lennart Poettering, Berlin