>Dear sir.
I do not get bored kompiuteri.Po specialist to throw trash in
kompiuterin.Nuk want to thank the many programs reja.Ju for help.Salute
Petrit Metohu
> On Mon, March 23, 2009 4:56 am, Alan in Toronto wrote:
>> On Mon, March 23, 2009 12:55 am, Karl Pearson wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, March 22, 2009 10:38 pm, Alan in Toronto wrote:
>>>> On Sat, March 21, 2009 1:03 am, Karl Pearson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, March 20, 2009 10:28 pm, Alan in Toronto wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, March 21, 2009 12:17 am, Paul Lesniewski wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Alan in Toronto
>
> <more stuff deleted>
>
>>>>> I'd check /etc/dovecot.conf to see if there's any special settings,
>>>>> like
>>>>> what the namespace is set to, specifically mail_location = which if
>>>>> defaulted, is $HOME/mail and which is why SM thinks you should have
>>>>> that
>>>>> set to "".
>>>>
>>>> Thanks. I'm using PuTTY to SSH to root to find that. I've a neophyte
>>>> at
>>>> using PuTTY
>>>> though, so I can't even find how to use a "find" command to search
>>>> within a text
>>>> file. I found /etc/dovecot.conf as you said, and used pico to view
>>>> it.
>>>> Here is a
>>>> block with entries referring to mail_location.
>>>>
>>>> # REMEMBER: If you add any namespaces, the default namespace must be
>>>> added
>>>> # explicitly, ie. mail_location does nothing unless you have a
>>>> namespace
>>>> # without a location setting. Default namespace is simply done by
>>>> having
>>>> a
>>>> # namespace with empty prefix.
>>>> namespace private {
>>>> # Hierarchy separator to use. You should use the same separator
>>>> for
>>>> all
>>>> # namespaces or some clients get confused. '/' is usually a good
>>>> one.
>>>> # The default however depends on the underlying mail storage
>>>> format.
>>>> #separator =
>>>>
>>>> # Prefix required to access this namespace. This needs to be
>>>> different for
>>>> # all namespaces. For example "Public/".
>>>> prefix = INBOX.
>>>
>>> That's the setting right there. As Paul said, it's a good thing to
>>> leave
>>> it alone, since it's working. Unless you are very confident that
>>> 'fixing' it won't break anything else.
>>
>>
>> Ah, I thought so (due to your earlier pointing me in that direction.)
>> So, in a
>> normal/standard vanilla Dovecot that value would be empty?
>
> I'm not using the namespace private section, which means it's
> 'defaulted' to compile values. Also, I've not added (changed) any
> settings in the entire "Mailbox locations and namespaces" section. I'm
> on Dovecot version 1.0.15, which is one of the later releases.
>
>>
>> cPanel releases used to include Courier as default. Now they use Dovecot
>> (although I
>> could switch to Courier by selecting it on one of the control panel web
>> interface
>> pages which would then do some backend change to config.) Perhaps they
>> kept the old
>> prefix value to avoid breaking users' use of things like SquirrelMail.
>> Or, perhaps
>> the developers just forgot to change it, which also happens in cPanel
>> upgrades.
>
>
> I suspect they use Dovecot because it's faster than Courier, but don't
> know for sure. I found it to be at least 100 times faster than UW-IMAP
> when I started using it. I had to download it and compile it from source
> when I started, but that's been a few years ago on an older OS and
> system no longer used.
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>> To find text in a file, use grep, i.e:
>>>
>>> grep INBOX /etc/dovecot.conf
>>>
>>> or, to find a given word or phrase within a group of files, you could
>>> do:
>>>
>>> FNDSTR="prefix = INBOX"
>>> grep $FNDSTR *
>>>
>>> Linux uses the same 'wildcards' as DOS did (32/64 bit MS OSes).
>>>
>>> You can also use a find command to parse through directories
>>> recursively:
>>>
>>> find . -exec grep $FNDSTR {} \; -print
>>>
>>> which will do the grep against every file in the current directory (.)
>>> and recurse through all the subdirectories underneath.
>>>
>>> </lesson>
>>
>> LOL. Thanks for the lesson. I appreciate it. I'm a newbie to SSH, so
>> your lesson
>> will be saved along with other commands that I have learned. I've found
>> a few pages
>> with some commands, but nothing comprehensive. A little comes back from
>> old lizard
>> memory from when I used to work on Solaris years ago.
>>
>> Thanks very much!
>
>
> FYI, you could visit my Unix command page at
> http://ourldsfamily.com/mypapers/ ...
>
> Karl
>
>>
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> # Physical location of the mailbox. This is in same format as
>>>> # mail_location, which is also the default for it.
>>>> #location =
>>>>
>>>> # There can be only one INBOX, and this setting defines which
>>>> namespace
>>>> # has it.
>>>> inbox = yes
>>>>
>>>> # If namespace is hidden, it's not advertised to clients via
>>>> NAMESPACE
>>>> # extension. You'll most likely also want to set list=no. This is
>>>> mostly
>>>> # useful when converting from another server with different
>>>> namespaces which
>>>> # you want to deprecate but still keep working. For example you
>>>> can
>>>> create
>>>> # hidden namespaces with prefixes "~/mail/", "~%u/mail/" and
>>>> "mail/".
>>>> #hidden = yes
>>>>
>>>> # Show the mailboxes under this namespace with LIST command. This
>>>> makes the
>>>> # namespace visible for clients that don't support NAMESPACE
>>>> extension.
>>>> #list = yes
>>>>
>>>> # Namespace handles its own subscriptions. If set to "no", the
>>>> parent
>>>> # namespace handles them (empty prefix should always have this as
>>>> "yes")
>>>> #subscriptions = yes
>>>> #subscriptions = yes
>>>>
>>>> Does all that tell you anything? What else should I look for?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> It might have been changed to match your old server. If it
>>>>> was, leave it alone as you found it to work.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, as long as it's working that's a good start. :)
>>>>> I'm kind of a 'purist'
>>>>> (whatever that means) and preferred to change from SM settings of
>>>>> mail/
>>>>> as the setting and liked the "" setting for Dovecot because that
>>>>> meant
>>>>> when I helped others setup their IMAP email in SM or whatever, I
>>>>> could
>>>>> just leave that setting alone and it would work 'out of the box.'
>>>>> For
>>>>> going forward, I find that the less things have to be 'tweaked' to
>>>>> make
>>>>> them back-compatible, the happier I am as an admin.
>>>>
>>>> As a rule, I agree with you. I prefer more "vanilla" installations,
>>>> so
>>>> things are as
>>>> expected and other stuff could be added on easily because the base
>>>> setup
>>>> is as
>>>> expected.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your help, and thanks Paul for your help.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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