On Wed, 1 Oct 2008, Paul Lesniewski wrote: > On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Chris Hilts <tassium@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Scott Haneda wrote: >>>> 3 seconds just to tell you how many messages there are. Now imagine how >>>> long it takes to fetch headers. >>> >>> I know, I feel it is slow as well. > > Your response doesn't indicate you understood what Chris wrote. He > was indicating that the 3-second time is irrelevant. When SM needs to > gather headers is when you incur the big performance hit, which is to > be expected with an INBOX that big. > >>>> Server-side sort is a huge win for webmail. On large mailboxes, it is >>>> pretty much a requirement. >>> >>> That is what I thought as well. First, can you tell me why SM has to do >>> three selects? At least, that is what I read, I am just curious as to >>> why that is. >> >> Not off the top of my head. It's been a long time since I've delved >> into it, my Real Life has really slammed my development time. > > If you insist on keeping enormous INBOXes (bad form IMO), try > SquirrelMail 1.5.2, where header fetching has been redesigned and is > faster in this scenario, but you still should clean out your INBOX. > >>> Can you explain, technically, why sort is more or less a requirement? >> >> Because the IMAP server is going to be faster at sorting the messages >> than PHP is going to be. > > And the EIMS developer showed surprising ignorance regarding this > fact. That's the biggest sign to me that you need to find a better > IMAP server. Might I suggest switching to Dovecot. I don't know if it's possible, but when I made that switch, opening my inbox went from 15-30 seconds with around 500 messages, to under 3 seconds. Dovecot creates nice indexes for your email folders, including the inbox, and also does all the sorts for you. My 2 bits, and worth what you are paying me... Karl > >>> Here is a dialogue I had about my email server, and I would like to know >>> as much about this as I can: >>> >>> /***** >>> I stated this >>>>>> I also am reading that the IMAP sort feature and one about thread, >>>>>> can speed up access as well. >>> >>> Developer replied this >>>>> Only when the client uses them (and most clients don't use them), and >>>>> the client is slower than the server at sorting and threading. >> >> This is most definitely the case with PHP-based webmail. >> >>> I am looking at Dovecot very strongly. What hardware was your select >>> against, and the drive setup as well? Do you have a case where you >>> could do a select on something pretty large, maybe 50,000? Exactly what >>> is considered too many messages to a IMAP mailbox? >> >> I could, if I had any folders that big, but I don't keep that much stuff >> around. I'm sure there's plenty of Cyrus and Courier benchmarks out >> there though, and plenty of "mbox vs. maildir" comparisons. Gonna have >> to do a little Googling on this one, methinks. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > ----- > squirrelmail-users mailing list > Posting guidelines: http://squirrelmail.org/postingguidelines > List address: squirrelmail-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > List archives: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.mail.squirrelmail.user > List info (subscribe/unsubscribe/change options): https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/squirrelmail-users > --- _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ ____________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ ____________ _-\\<._ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ (_)/ (_) _/ _/ _/ _/ ...................... _/ _/ arl _/_/_/ _/ earson KarlP@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx --- http://consulting.ourldsfamily.com --- "To mess up your Linux PC, you have to really work at it; to mess up a microsoft PC you just have to work on it." --- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ----- squirrelmail-users mailing list Posting guidelines: http://squirrelmail.org/postingguidelines List address: squirrelmail-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx List archives: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.mail.squirrelmail.user List info (subscribe/unsubscribe/change options): https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/squirrelmail-users
