Re: One time password for SM

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On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Paul Lesniewski <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 8:39 AM, Fredrik Jervfors
> <jervfors@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Ubuntu 7.04 server amd64
>>> SM 1.4.11
>>>
>>> I'm prepared adding One-Time-Password to SM as experiment.  Please
>>> advise are following packages working on SM;
>>>
>>> opie-client opie-server libopie-dev
>>>
>>> They are on Ubuntu repo.
>>
>> No. Since SquirrelMail logs in to the IMAP server at least once per page
>> view, OPT is worthless. You might not even get as far as to loading both
>> frames after logging in, since the password will change every time you use
>> it. Using an IMAP proxy might help though, until it times out and the
>> connection to the IMAP server is lost. Every time the connection is closed
>> or lost, a new password will be generated and throw you back to the
>> SquirrelMail login page.

You can get around this using Imapproxy - as noted in the doc.  It's
been awhile since I wrote this, so I could be out-of-date.

>>
>>> On googling I found;
>>> Open Source Two-factor authentication: The WiKID Community Edition
>>> http://www.wikidsystems.com/community-version
>>>
>>> Can it work on SM?  If YES which package/packages shall I download?

The packages are listed in the how-to and in the original doc I used
to install everything:
http://nakedape.cc/info/Cyrus-IMAP-HOWTO/quickstart-fedora.html

>>
>> They state that they can. A link marked "Squirrelmail and other IMAP
>> services" on the first page links to
>> <http://www.wikidsystems.com/community-version/documentation/howtos/two_factor_webmail>.
>
> Their instructions depend on the weakness Fredrik pointed out not
> happening: the IMAP proxy server timing out your credentials.

I don't think so, but as I said, I could be wrong.

N.B: the version in the how-to uses radius, which is not part of the
open source Community Version.  However, we have a PHP network client
that could be integrated with the Community version.  Also, since I
wrote that how-to for SM, we have added mutual https authentication
that prevents network-based MITM attacks by validating the ssl cert
for the user. You can find out more about that
here:http://www.wikidsystems.com/learn-more/technology/mutual_authentication.

Nick

>
>>> OR are there other suggestions?  TIA
>>
>> A plugin hooked into the logout page of SquirrelMail could be used to
>> create a new password if the system allows it, but I don't have any
>> suggestions right now on how to do that in practise.
>
> I actually have a plugin sitting around that creates OTPs from within
> the SM interface (they are ONLY *SquirrelMail* OTPs); the somewhat
> insecure part of the puzzle being that SM actually takes the user's
> real password and stores it in an encrypted file.  The encryption is
> decent (any mcrypt-supported algorithm works), but it's still always
> an iffy proposition for an application to store user passwords.  This
> particular plugin is years old and needs a lot of face-lifting before
> it would be ready for use.
>
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