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I'm not about it.
There is a difference between help and passengers. Who want to
get a turnkey solution without doing anything.
Personally, I quite simply as help to specify the direction, or
to show that anything is possible in principle. The rest I do
myself. If I do not - then I buy it.
At the beginning of the thread I made it - that direction. I think
that should be enough, is not it?
20.11.2016 18:07, --Ahmad-- пишет:
lol …. i hope you don’t spent much time for
helping people here on the mailing list for free .
thanks again for your time .
Store-ID is
not quite cached. This deduplication and this is
just what
you need for dynamic content, which is the
majority of the video. Do not
forget about the volume of the video
itself.
As for the cache, you should look at what
video has captions under
HTTPS. Modern vanilla SQUID can not in most
cases its cache that
Store-ID with that without it. Because of
video HTTP headers and pragmas.
In any case, the complete solution is too
complex for the majority of
ordinary users Squid and too costly in
terms of effort to give it. These
solutions can either buy or write yourself,
agree? I see no reason to
give free solutions, which spent a lot of
time - it is not free.
20.11.2016 17:54, --Ahmad-- пишет:
you
are correct .
but video cache solution was very very simple when
compared to the store id .
also it support couple of websites without that
much effort .
what i mean here is the simplicity …..im not in the
development level … i talk about the normal squid
users .
cheers
On Nov 20, 2016, at
1:47 PM, Yuri Voinov <yvoinov@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
And no need to invent anything. Everything has
already been invented.
And it is called the invention Store-ID.
You take it and write on the basis of all that is
needed. I do not see
any problem.
20.11.2016 17:45, --Ahmad-- пишет:
hey guys .
as long as the video cache has been opened now
and in past proved its strength with http
other websites for video .
((lets put youtube away now .))
why don’t we see development on it to support
the video contents of websites that support
http like daily motion and its sisters websites
.
and why don’t we use certificates once
development for youtube & Facebook ???
i saw the development of eleizer of caching
windows updates and it was great solution …..
why don’t we combine those 2 solution in 1
product ?
i think that continuing on the solution of
video cache is better than inventing solution
from scratch .
thanks again squid users Guys
On Nov 20,
2016, at 1:10 AM, Eliezer Croitoru <eliezer@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
The cachevideos solution is not a fake but as
Amos mentioned it might not have been
updated\upgraded to match today state of
YouTube and google videos.
I do not know a thing about this product but
they offer a trial period and they have a
forums which can be used to get more details.
I believe they still have something really
good in their solution since it's not based on
StoreID but on other concepts.
Eliezer
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Linux System Administrator
Mobile: +972-5-28704261
Email: eliezer@xxxxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: Yuri Voinov [mailto:yvoinov@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 00:18
To: Eliezer Croitoru <eliezer@xxxxxxxxxxxx>;
squid-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: caching videos over
https?
20.11.2016 3:59, Eliezer Croitoru пишет:
Yuri,
I am not the most experienced in life and in
security but I can say it's possible and I
am not selling it....
I released the windows update cacher which
works in enough places(just by seeing how
many downloaded it..).
The first rule I have learned from my
mentors is that even if you know something
it might not fit to be in a form that the
general public should know about.
I am looking for a link to CVE related
publication rules of thumb so I would be
able to understand better what should be
published and how.
Any redirections are welcomed..
A note:
If you have the plain html of a json which
contains the next links you would be able to
predict couple things...
I know what are you talking about. I came to
this idea two years ago.
Unfortunately, I had more important
priorities.
But I'm not seen open source solutions uses
real YT internals yet and really works.
Now I'm working on another squid's thing, but
plan to return to YT store-ID helper later.
However, it is only the fact that the
"solutions" that are in the public domain, or
obsolete, or are worthless.
And for some more money and asking. I would
understand if they really worked.
Unfortunately, Google does not idiots work.
That's why I said that the development of the
Indian - fake.
If you would
be able to catch every single fedora\redhat
sqlite db file and replace it with a
malicious sha256 data you would be able to
hack each of their clients machine when they
will be updated.
If you believe you can coordinate such a
thing you are way above StoreID level of
understanding networking and Computer
Science.
Cheers,
Eliezer
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Linux System Administrator
Mobile: +972-5-28704261
Email: eliezer@xxxxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: Yuri Voinov [mailto:yvoinov@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 23:08
To: Eliezer Croitoru <eliezer@xxxxxxxxxxxx>;
squid-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: caching videos
over https?
I do not want to waste my and your time and
discuss this issue. I know what I know, I
have seriously studied this issue. None of
those who are really able to cache Youtube -
not only on desktops but also on mobile
devices - all without exception - is no
solution in the form of open source or blob
will not offer free. This is big money. As
for Google, and for those who use it.
Therefore, I suggest better acquainted with
the way Youtube counteracts caching and
close useless discussion.
I'm not going to shake the air and talk
about what I do not and can not be. If you
have a solution - really works, and for
absolutely any type of client (Android and
iPhone) - show evidence or let's stop
blah-blah-blah. I mean, if you really were a
solution - you'd sold it for money. But you
do not have it, isn't it?
Personally, I do not want anything. This is
not the solution I'm looking for.
For myself, I found a workaround; what I
know - I have stated in the wiki. If someone
else wants to spend a year or two for new
investigations - welcome.
20.11.2016 2:45, Eliezer Croitoru пишет:
Yuri,
Let say I can cache youtube videos, what
would I get for this?
I mean, what would anyone get from this?
Let say I will give you a blob that will
work, will you try it? Or
would you want only an open source
solution?
Eliezer
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Eliezer Croitoru
<http://ngtech.co.il/lmgtfy/> Linux
System
Administrator
Mobile: +972-5-28704261
Email: eliezer@xxxxxxxxxxxx
From: squid-users
[mailto:squid-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Yuri Voinov
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 17:54
To: squid-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: caching videos
over https?
HTTPS is not a problem, if not a problem
to install the proxy
certificate to the clients.
The problem in combating caching YT by
Google.
19.11.2016 21:41, Yuri Voinov пишет:
19.11.2016 21:35, Amos Jeffries пишет:
19.11.2016 20:56, Bakhtiyor Homidov пишет:
thanks, yuri,
just found https://cachevideos.com/, what
do you think about this?
On 20/11/2016 4:17 a.m., Yuri Voinov
wrote:
This is fake.
Only for strange definitions of "fake".
It is simply an old helper from before
YouTube became all-HTTPS. It
should still work okay for any of the
video sites that are still
using HTTP.
YT uses cache-preventing scheme for videos
relatively long time
(after they finished use Flash videos).
So, no one - excluding Google
itself
- can cache it now. Especially for mobile
devices. I've spent last
two years to learn this. So, anyone who
talk he can cache YT is lies.
As I explain here why:
http://wiki.squid-cache.org/ConfigExamples/DynamicContent/YouTube/Dis
c
ussion
All another videos - well, this is a bit
difficult - but possible to cache.
If you look at the features list it
clearly says:
"No support for HTTPS (secure HTTP)
caching."
HTTPS itself in most cases can't be easy
cached by vanilla squid.
Amos
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