Hi, >>> Certainly there is no problem with continuing to discuss that. >>> But I didn't see any reason to mention it in this draft any longer. >> >>Wouldn't it be good to still describe the problem, but maybe indicate that the solution is outside the scope of >>the document? > >IMO, such a statement in an RFC tends to get stale with time. > >What do others think? Do you want this document to go to RFC containing >statements of work we might want to do in the future? In my experience it is not unusual to state that something is outside the scope of a document. We don't need to say what may, and may not, be done in the future, simply say that it is outside the scope of THIS document. Regards, Christer Thanks, Paul > Regards, > > Christer > > > Christer Holmberg wrote: >> Hi, >> >> The rejecting PRACK offer is still "ongoing", but unfortuantely I have not had time to do much onit lately - mostly due to INFO. >> >> Regards, >> >> Christer >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: sipping-bounces@xxxxxxxx [sipping-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Kyzivat [pkyzivat@xxxxxxxxx] >> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 7:48 PM >> To: sipping-chairs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Cc: sipping >> Subject: [Sipping] New version posted: draft-ietf-sipping-sip-offeranswer-11.txt >> >> I just posted a new version of the offeranswer draft. >> This version is intended to resolve all outstanding issues. >> >> Here is a summary of substantial changes made: >> >> - the open issues that were previously in section 6 were >> removed. The doc has been updated as needed to be consistent >> with conclusions about how to deal with those issues. >> Specifically: >> >> - Rejecting PRACK offer has simply been dropped. >> There has been no ongoing interest in no normative work >> to support doing that. >> >> - Commit/Rollback of Offer/Answer on Unsuccessful re-INVITE >> Transaction has been resolved by reference to >> draft-camarillo-sipcore-reinvite-01. New text referencing >> that has been added at multiple places in the document. >> >> - Loosening requirement for Offer in a Reliable Response: >> Again there has been no indication of intent to do anything >> in this space, so the topic has simply been dropped. >> >> - Requesting Hold while already on Hold: >> This was already addressed in the main body of the document. >> The issue was whether this was appropriate, since it rests on >> the interpretation of certain text in 3261 being non-normative. >> That assumption has been restated in the main body. >> I'm unaware of any argument to that in over two years. >> >> - The recommendations for addition of new o/a usage in sip >> (prior section 7) has also been dropped. While these may have >> been helpful during discussion of the draft, they aren't >> helpful after it is finalized. >> >> - I rearranged the order of authors since Takuya has been unavailable >> to work on it for some time. However I have retained him as an author >> because the preponderance of the text is still his. >> >> In addition there hare assorted miscellaneous minor cleanups. >> >> Thanks, >> Paul >> >> Internet-Draft@xxxxxxxx wrote: >>> New version (-11) has been submitted for draft-ietf-sipping-sip-offeranswer-11.txt. >>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-sipping-sip-offeranswer-11.txt >>> Sub state has been changed to AD Follow up from New Id Needed >>> >>> Diff from previous version: >>> http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-sipping-sip-offeranswer-11 >>> >>> IETF Secretariat. >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sipping mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipping >> This list is for NEW development of the application of SIP >> Use sip-implementors@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx for questions on current sip >> Use sip@xxxxxxxx for new developments of core SIP > _______________________________________________ > Sipping mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipping > This list is for NEW development of the application of SIP > Use sip-implementors@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx for questions on current sip > Use sip@xxxxxxxx for new developments of core SIP > _______________________________________________ Sipping mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipping This list is for NEW development of the application of SIP Use sip-implementors@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx for questions on current sip Use sip@xxxxxxxx for new developments of core SIP