Re: rbacsep: collapsing xserver

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On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 19:10 -0400, Eamon Walsh wrote:
> Joe Nall wrote:
> > On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Christopher J. PeBenito
> > <cpebenito@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >   
> >> On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 08:19 -0500, Xavier Toth wrote:
> >>     
> >>> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Daniel J Walsh <dwalsh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>       
> >>>> The current XAce software is far to complex to do anything usefull in my
> >>>> opinion.  We have way too many types and transitions.  We need to
> >>>> simplify down to a lot less types.
> >>>>         
> >>> Going back to Dan's concern about the complexity of the X SELinux
> >>> extension and the number of types and transitions I'd like to see some
> >>> discussion/resolution. Eamon what's your position on this topic?
> >>>       
> >> I don't want to speak for Eamon, but I suspect that he would defend the
> >> current setup since he's the one that wrote the policy.  I just
> >> restructured it to fit nicer in refpolicy and actually removed a few
> >> types :)
> >>
> >> My position is that its fine as is.  Simplifying it unconditionally
> >> starts to make it less usable for people that actually want fine grained
> >> controls on the desktop.  Making things simpler tends to be easy, since
> >> it tends to be merging types or using attributes for blanket access,
> >> like unconfined does.  The black magic voodoo that happens in the
> >> xserver, that only a select few have previously known about, has only
> >> recently been exposed via the SELinux controls.  I feel that it may be
> >> premature to simplify the policy, since side effects probably aren't
> >> well understood yet.  At least they aren't understood well by me yet.
> >>     
> 
> I never signed up to write "the SELinux policy" for X.

I never claimed you did.  However, most of the rules on X objects in
refpolicy right now are a refinement of what you wrote.  Thats all that
I meant.  I know its up to me and other policy writers/contributors to
get this going.

> It is my responsibility to document my work so that others can write
> such policies, and I will do so.

-- 
Chris PeBenito
Tresys Technology, LLC
(410) 290-1411 x150



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