HENK: UNLESS and until one grasps Linux as a whole system, which takes time to learn, it's not accessible. Thus it needs insider knowhow and conventions, etc. One gets one's head bitten off subtly or crudely when an "ignorant" outsider by the insiders, if not called illiterate, haha. Try joining a billionaires club and see. Linux has a steeper learning curve than most. Since the input mechanisms to the head, eye and ear and mouth ONLY take it in bits at a time understanding of it as a whole needs time to data stuff. Once the conventions acquired it's all too "Obvious" and not until. I was sorry too. Let's have a crying contest. More time wasted. I'm even older Europe. And while I'm at it, for IAIN, there is a linux578.zip file, , with a tar file in it, with a linux driver for REDhat and a scanmodem proggie to get the chip number and model, but its all in Unix code and gz compression, no use to Windows. I've got the 568 but that needs a tty.h patch, the 578 does not and it seems not to go above kernel 2.2, where RH * has 2.4 and up. The best site seems to be: modemsite.com. In Linux one can use spci-vv query, but I cannot get into Linux, haha. Agere released linux code for its Win lucent chip. but Lectron has not yet got its act together on a linux driver, but I've written to them. It's the kernel what needs modifying, done I think with later versions. Also got the scanmodem prog 0.9.9. -THE latest - but again a gz. It all ranges between waffle and technobabble. GOT - just inb casew its usewfull to somebody. scanmodem.gz to find chip model, family and number ltmodem 0.9.9.tgz = the latest linux568.zip driver ltmodem 2.4.2 _9.26a1 Which'll do the trick when Rh is working. Anyrate found a PCI driver for the Mboard. ----- Original Message ----- From: "h.breimer" <acbk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <psyche-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 12:47 AM Subject: Re: newbie > > hi Adrian, > > On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 03:17:00 +1200 > "afme@xxxxxxxxxx" <adrianix@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Ta, ha, > > You prefer telegram style? writing very ambiguous, like. > > Don't like learning in dribbles. > > Whow, did'nt know there was a "holistic" method of learning Linux > > > Zeeland, nederland? > > right, "old-Europe" > > sorry about the ctrl-alt BS trick. I did not know about the > motherboard problem. > > I hope you will still find how helpfull the man(ual) pages can be. > Try e.g. man mkdir (in a terminal or ctrl-alt Fx screen) if you want > to create directories. > > again, good luck, > > Henk > > > > -- > Psyche-list mailing list > Psyche-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list -- Psyche-list mailing list Psyche-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list