I've got both installed:
[root@home root]# rpm -qa | grep -i talk
talk-server-0.17-17
talk-0.17-17
verifiying....
[root@home root]# which talk
/usr/bin/talk
and the server:
[root@home root]# chkconfig --list | grep -i talk
talk: off
the "talk: off" line comes from xinetd. try installing them both at the same
time:
rpm -ivh talk-server-0.17-17.rpm talk-0.17-17.rpm
On Saturday 08 March 2003 6:21 pm, Harry Putnam wrote:
> Michael Schwendt <ms0301rh@arcor.de> writes:
> >> installed with talk are:
> >> /usr/bin/talk
> >> /usr/share/man/man1/talk.1.gz
> >>
> >> No talkd which is mentioned in the `see also' part of `talk' manpage.
> >>
> >> This led me to think I needed another package `talk-server' but
> >> installing it causes `talk' to be uninstalled and vice versa.
> >
> > Querying the rpms doesn't yield anything like that. The talk-server
> > packages only obsoletes an older "ntalk" package.
>
> Doesn't yield anything like what? What I posted was a direct result
> of a query:
> rpm -ql talk
> /usr/bin/talk
> /usr/share/man/man1/talk.1.gz
>
> > You would need a talk client/server pair on both ends of the
> > communication. Even on localhost, you would need the server.
>
> Where is the server?
> Running a query of the distro database, searching all distro packages
> for talk shows this:
>
> ytalk-3.1.1-10
> netatalk-1.5.3.1-4
> talk-0.17-17
> ktalkd-3.0.3-3
> netatalk-devel-1.5.3.1-4
> talk-server-0.17-17
>
> All except `talk' and `talk-server' appear to be specialized or rely
> upon the first two.
>
> I have talk-0.17-17 installed:
> rpm -qa |grep talk
> talk-0.17-17
> With this only, none of the files you showed below are installed
>
> > /etc/xinetd.d/ntalk
> > /etc/xinetd.d/talk
> > /usr/sbin/in.ntalkd
> > /usr/sbin/in.talkd
>
> But note that the `talk' command is available:
>
> which talk
> /usr/bin/talk
>
> So attempting to install talk-server
> like:
> up2date -i talk-server
>
> Now note that talk-0.17-17 is gone:
>
> rpm -qa |grep talk
> talk-server-0.17-17
>
> Note further that the `talk' command is no longer available
>
> which talk
> /usr/bin/which: no talk in ([...] <my_path>)
>
> So having these files:
> > /etc/xinetd.d/ntalk
> > /etc/xinetd.d/talk
> > /usr/sbin/in.ntalkd
> > /usr/sbin/in.talkd
>
> Is not very usefull if no talk command is available.
>
> > "chkconfig ntalk on" should be enough.
>
> # chkconfig ntalk on
> # talk
> -bash: talk: command not found
> # ntalk
> -bash: ntalk: command not found
>
> Something is wrong here. Installing talk-server has removed `talk'.
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