Nadim Bitar wrote: >> You haven't done much research into this have you. You should at >> least be sure of your facts before you make comments like that :) > > > Maybe you should check your facts, i am running Redhat linux on dell > servers and having problems that could be easily solved if i had a > windows machine. I know that these servers run perfectly on Linux but > many utilities that are available for windows are not available for > linux or if they are you either need windows to install them or you > need windows on the client to access the remote management interface. Ahhhh - I see your confusion. Dell, could make the website somewhat better, I agree. However, you don't need windows to use the driver/application packages on the site. When I list the software available to our PowerEdge servers, and list only Linux, you're right when I ask for a specific download, it only prints .exe files. HOWEVER, read the small print :) These are self-extracting ZIP files - hence unzip will uncompress them easily. Even on Linux. Ie: [plarsen@dilbert tmp]$ unzip -l Utl.exe Archive: Utl.exe Length Date Time Name -------- ---- ---- ---- 0 02-19-01 10:54 CIM/ 3847 12-29-00 13:44 CIM/readme.txt 0 02-19-01 10:54 ControlSuite/ 439911 02-15-01 19:45 ControlSuite/data1.cab 15067 02-15-01 19:45 ControlSuite/data1.hdr 1595007 02-15-01 19:45 ControlSuite/data2.cab 338488 01-10-01 08:39 ControlSuite/ikernel.ex_ 435 02-15-01 19:45 ControlSuite/layout.bin 10430 02-09-01 13:25 ControlSuite/license.txt 9138 01-02-01 13:37 ControlSuite/logo.bmp 5060 02-02-01 14:38 ControlSuite/release.txt 54272 08-11-00 04:22 ControlSuite/Setup.exe 96 12-11-00 14:35 ControlSuite/Setup.ini 140200 02-15-01 19:45 ControlSuite/setup.inx 0 02-19-01 10:54 DMI/ 0 02-19-01 10:54 DMI/hppdell/ 45056 01-19-01 17:30 DMI/hppdell/b57dmihp.exe 13222 11-21-00 18:18 DMI/hppdell/b57dmihp.mif 5556 01-19-01 17:42 DMI/hppdell/release.txt 0 02-19-01 10:54 DOS/ 0 02-19-01 10:54 DOS/UserDiag/ 489040 02-15-01 20:51 DOS/UserDiag/b57diag.exe 143983 02-15-01 12:17 DOS/UserDiag/b57diagman.pdf 4460 12-28-00 12:47 DOS/UserDiag/cpu.bin 265396 07-20-00 18:35 DOS/UserDiag/dos4gw.exe 14249 02-15-01 19:39 DOS/UserDiag/release.txt 0 02-19-01 10:54 DOS/Utility/ 22581 01-31-01 17:11 DOS/Utility/b57util.exe 22739 01-31-01 17:20 DOS/Utility/b57util.pdf 619 01-31-01 17:27 DOS/Utility/release.txt 0 02-19-01 10:54 SNMP/ 45056 01-11-01 17:58 SNMP/baspmgnt.dll 0 02-19-01 10:54 SNMP/Mibs/ 10481 01-11-01 17:54 SNMP/Mibs/baspConfig.mib 13428 01-11-01 17:36 SNMP/Mibs/baspStat.mib 2603 01-11-01 17:36 SNMP/Mibs/baspTrap.mib 3975 01-11-01 17:57 SNMP/release.txt -------- ------- 3714395 37 files [plarsen@dilbert tmp]$ Dell could make each platform their own downloadable - but I don't think this is the forum for that debate. Try the suggested lists from dell or try the web-master for better suggestions. > I do not like the fact that linux is a second class citizen and i do > not like the fact that they impose windows in order to install the > required files on my linux server. You forget that some of the utililites are not needed on Linux. You have complete driver sets for all your hardware - what is not always there is cute little purpose less programs to view Scsi status graphicly (ie) - well, we got better ways of doing that from the command line anyway. But I guess that depends on your temper and experience. Personally I'm very fond of the /proc filesystem and access to the details of all setup and available switches compared to the reduced availability on Windows systems. > The Dell My Support page downloads that i need are .exe files that > needs windows to create the boot disk that i need, some documentation > are even bundled in .exe files. No they don't :) But it's easy to confuse. See above. unzip is available in the standard RH distribution. I'm NOT sure it's installed per default, but it's rather simple to load it. > The My Dell support page doens't even list Linux as a OS for > submitting an email to technical support. ?? I had/has for me. > It is not enough to just have the hardware supported under linux to > claim they support Linux. ???? What else is there for a hardware company? Regards Peter Larsen -- Psyche-list mailing list Psyche-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list