Re: Redhat on Dell Servers.

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Nadim Bitar wrote:
>> You haven't done much research into this have you.  You should at
>> least be sure of your facts before you make comments like that :)
> 
> 
> Maybe you should check your facts, i am running Redhat linux on dell
> servers and having problems that could be  easily solved if i had a
> windows machine. I know that these servers run perfectly on Linux but
> many utilities that are available for windows are not available for
> linux or if they are you either need windows to install them or you
> need windows on the client to access the remote management interface.

Ahhhh - I see your confusion. Dell, could make the website somewhat better, I agree. However, you don't need windows to use the driver/application packages on the site.
When I list the software available to our PowerEdge servers, and list only Linux, you're right when I ask for a specific download, it only prints .exe files. HOWEVER, read the small print :)  These are self-extracting ZIP files - hence unzip will uncompress them easily. Even on Linux.

Ie:
[plarsen@dilbert tmp]$ unzip -l Utl.exe
Archive:  Utl.exe
  Length     Date   Time    Name
 --------    ----   ----    ----
        0  02-19-01 10:54   CIM/
     3847  12-29-00 13:44   CIM/readme.txt
        0  02-19-01 10:54   ControlSuite/
   439911  02-15-01 19:45   ControlSuite/data1.cab
    15067  02-15-01 19:45   ControlSuite/data1.hdr
  1595007  02-15-01 19:45   ControlSuite/data2.cab
   338488  01-10-01 08:39   ControlSuite/ikernel.ex_
      435  02-15-01 19:45   ControlSuite/layout.bin
    10430  02-09-01 13:25   ControlSuite/license.txt
     9138  01-02-01 13:37   ControlSuite/logo.bmp
     5060  02-02-01 14:38   ControlSuite/release.txt
    54272  08-11-00 04:22   ControlSuite/Setup.exe
       96  12-11-00 14:35   ControlSuite/Setup.ini
   140200  02-15-01 19:45   ControlSuite/setup.inx
        0  02-19-01 10:54   DMI/
        0  02-19-01 10:54   DMI/hppdell/
    45056  01-19-01 17:30   DMI/hppdell/b57dmihp.exe
    13222  11-21-00 18:18   DMI/hppdell/b57dmihp.mif
     5556  01-19-01 17:42   DMI/hppdell/release.txt
        0  02-19-01 10:54   DOS/
        0  02-19-01 10:54   DOS/UserDiag/
   489040  02-15-01 20:51   DOS/UserDiag/b57diag.exe
   143983  02-15-01 12:17   DOS/UserDiag/b57diagman.pdf
     4460  12-28-00 12:47   DOS/UserDiag/cpu.bin
   265396  07-20-00 18:35   DOS/UserDiag/dos4gw.exe
    14249  02-15-01 19:39   DOS/UserDiag/release.txt
        0  02-19-01 10:54   DOS/Utility/
    22581  01-31-01 17:11   DOS/Utility/b57util.exe
    22739  01-31-01 17:20   DOS/Utility/b57util.pdf
      619  01-31-01 17:27   DOS/Utility/release.txt
        0  02-19-01 10:54   SNMP/
    45056  01-11-01 17:58   SNMP/baspmgnt.dll
        0  02-19-01 10:54   SNMP/Mibs/
    10481  01-11-01 17:54   SNMP/Mibs/baspConfig.mib
    13428  01-11-01 17:36   SNMP/Mibs/baspStat.mib
     2603  01-11-01 17:36   SNMP/Mibs/baspTrap.mib
     3975  01-11-01 17:57   SNMP/release.txt
 --------                   -------
  3714395                   37 files
[plarsen@dilbert tmp]$


Dell could make each platform their own downloadable - but I don't think this is the forum for that debate. Try the suggested lists from dell or try the web-master for better suggestions.

> I do not like the fact that linux is a second class citizen and i do
> not like the fact that they impose windows in order to install the
> required files on my linux server.

You forget that some of the utililites are not needed on Linux. You have complete driver sets for all your hardware - what is not always there is cute little purpose less programs to view Scsi status graphicly (ie) - well, we got better ways of doing that from the command line anyway. But I guess that depends on your temper and experience. Personally I'm very fond of the /proc filesystem and access to the details of all setup and available switches compared to the reduced availability on Windows systems.

> The Dell My Support page downloads that i need are .exe files that
> needs windows to create the boot disk that i need, some documentation
> are even bundled in .exe files.

No they don't :)  But it's easy to confuse. See above. unzip is available in the standard RH distribution. I'm NOT sure it's installed per default, but it's rather simple to load it.

> The My Dell support page doens't even list Linux as a OS for
> submitting an email to technical support.
??
I had/has for me.

> It is not enough to just have the hardware supported under linux to
> claim they support Linux.

????
What else is there for a hardware company?

Regards
  Peter Larsen



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