On Wed, 20 Nov 2002, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > > > > > My wife complains every time I change something, including updates from > > one RHL release to another (before 8.0). I can see her complaining even > > more if I install RHL 8.0 on her computer. Possibly, I'd get away with > > Debian. > > > People complain about all sorts of things but in RH 8.0 when installed > the naive user has immediate access to the applications he most wants in > Windows. He finds the equivalent of Windows Office and a browser. That > is all that most Windows users want. They rarely pay attention to > Microsoft updates but if they do they work almost exactly as up2date > does. It is not a matter of dumbing us down but giving the average user > just what they want without having to sorry about the deeper stuff, They > can use and ISP just as they can with Windows. I still thing its clever > on the part of RedHat to do this assuming this was their conscious > decision., The difficulty I see with Windows is it limits how far you can advance. Now _I_ find I can't so easily do convenient things I like to do, things like single-click folders and such to open them, maximise windows either vertically or horizontally, I can't find stuff I used to be able to and I don't know whether, like freecell, RH forgot it because it wasn't important, or whether it's just somewhere I haven't thought to look yet. To be sure, I've fixed some things, but time spent figuring it out is time irrevokably lost from doing what I want todo. It also bothers me that if I can't see how to do things I should be able to do then people coming to Linux won't find those things at all, and I think some of those things I can't find now are advantages of Linux over Windows. I do have RHL 8 on one machine, and I do use it daily. However, for most of my work I still use 7.3. One of the things I miss from RHL 5.x days is the ability so send signals to processes from the GUI - right-click on titlebard or click on the System button and there was an item to choose to kill a process. There are times it would be handy to kill Mozilla because it's misbehaving. _I_ can do it from a terminal window, and I'm sure a lot of others here can too, but first you have to have one open. It's a nice feature that used to be there and yes, it did confuse me. Wouldn't mind betting there's a lot of folk here now who've never used anything older than GNOME or KDE and don't know it used to exist. Similarly, people coming in now won't know about single-click (unless an old timer points it out) and so will never come to appreciate the feature. I'm sure that single-click is easier for new-comers too. It's London to a brick my parents are going to have problems clicking the button twice quickly enough to register a double-click. -- Psyche-list mailing list Psyche-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list