On Wed Oct 09 2002 at 13:48, Aaron wrote: > I can't run KDE reliably. This on an OOB custom install, not an (By all accounts, what redhat did with kde in 8.0 was butcher it. I don't use kde, but I'm not suprised by all the problems. Not a good move imho). > I haven't been able to narrow it down, but it seems that if I have PPP > up, and maybe mozilla or maybe evolution, or both, or neither I'm not > sure, KDE just freezes. No access to taskbar, icon zooming is dead, > can't use the keyboard to get the hat-menu up, can't alt-F2 at all, it's > like I have a post-modern art exhibit sitting behind my keyboard. So I > have to press the Big Orange Switch. On *Linux* fer galdurned sakes! I > *expect* that from Windows, but never Linux. You should be able to log into the box from the network (if it hasn't frozen completely) and kill X from there. Or better still, enable kernel sysreq (in /etc/sysctl.conf) -- which can be a real system-saver to have a way to get your keyboard control back (among other things). For all the details, have a look in the kernel docs at a file call sysrq.txt. Cheers Tony