On Wed, 2002-10-09 at 15:56, Gordon Messmer wrote: > IIRC, Every window manager I've ever used on Linux defaults to using > ALT+MB1 to move windows. That includes AfterStep, FVWM 1 & 2, BlackBox, > Enlightenment, Sawfish, Metacity, KWM, and Kwin. It's not "only Gnome > and KDE"... Thanks for the nitpik. My point was that it's only on Linux this problem happens. > > Given that ALT+MB1 is a fairly standard key combo used by WM's and > unavailable to applications; on linux! I'd agree that it's nonsense for > applications to make that key combo central to any critical > functionality. Look - I was one of the first people pushing to get highend 3d apps on Linux...I was using it back when it was *only* used for render farming. I did not want to use Windows in our then-all Irix environment. I'm speaking as someone who struggled to get Linux accepted as a graphics workstation. It was an uphill battle, especially with the almost useless OGL support from XFree at the time. I feel somewhat smug now that it's the new hot thing in our business, but I'm also frustrated by the somewhat isolated philosophies that spawn from the open source movement. You're displaying it. This is verging into OT - but very simply - the world does not revolve around Linux. Maybe *yours* does, but not the people who make highend apps. It's to everyone's advantage to not display such a "screw you" attitude to people who come from a different background. "Applications shouldn't use ALT+MB1 because they're typically used by WM's"??? In your world, not mine. J.C. -- John Coldrick www.axyzfx.com Axyz Animation Houdini/Renderman/Discreet 425 Adelaide St W 416-504-0425 Toronto, ON Canada jc@axyzfx.com M5V 1S4 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Men of lofty genius when they are doing the least work are most active. -- Leonardo da Vinci