Re: ATI Radeon 9200 SE

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On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Gene C. wrote:

>> >2. Any tips or things I should try to get it to work "better"
>> >... it works OK not for the limited use I need.
>>
>> This specific chip ID is probably missing from pcitable and the
>> Cards database.  Once in a while when adding new chip support, an
>> ID gets left out here or there creating an inconsistency.  It's a
>> pretty simple fix though once someone reports the problem.  Any
>> time something like this occurs, just file a bug report in
>> bugzilla, and when I'm updating PCI ID lists, I'll try to
>> incorporate the missing data for future updates, etc.
>
>I also recently got a built by ATI 9200 and it worked fine with
>both the installer and redhat-config-xfree86.  With the thousand
>and one slightly different adapters that ATI puts out I am not
>sure how anyone keeps up with all of the various chipids.

It kindof makes sense to me that the most successful video
hardware manufacturers (ATI and Nvidia) are more likely than not,
going to have the largest selection of products to choose from
compared to smaller vendors or vendors who do not cover the same
range of markets.  Different products are created to target 
different market segments.  Different hardware has different PCI 
IDs, since you need a way of distinguishing the hardware inside a 
driver.  Every vendor that has different hardware, almost always 
does this, because not doing so makes it insane to detect the 
hardware properly *cough* Matrox G400/G450 *cough*.

So I'm not sure what your point is.  Who cares how many PCI IDs 
there are?  I suppose if ATI and Nvidia didn't want to both be 
#1, they could produce less products, sell less products, and 
have a smaller need for PCI IDs, and thus make it easier to 
update PCI ID lists.

I don't know about you, but personally I favour innovation, and 
selection, and hope to see both ATI and Nvidia, as well as other 
vendors produce as many products as they need to in order to 
compete in the various markets and market niches that are out 
there, and to include or exclude whatever features they deem 
necessary in a given product designed for a given niche.  I also 
hope that they make the products easy to autodetect and to 
distinguish which features are available, so that we can detect 
them.  The easiest way to do that is with PCI device ID.


-- 
Mike A. Harris


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