Re: Trolling for shuttle sff computer experiences

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Other than 3D Thomas' sis driver is very flexible and full featured,
plus some sff boxes based on sis chipsets offer DVI ports (not sure
about your model).  The latest code drop from S3/VIA offers good
functionality for the savage chip (3D, Xvmc), however it has not yet
been ported to mesa 5.x.  see the savage-2_0_0 branch in DRI cvs.  I'm
not sure the savage chips support DVI.  As I recall the video engine in
the savage chips wasn't the greatest, but that might be overcome by
using the Xvmc stuff.  I'm not too familiar with the sis video engine
performance-wise, but I think it is decent, plus there are a lot of Xv
related controls that other chipsets don't offer like chromakey and
good tv out support.

Add on cards may perform better due to havin discrete memory, but few
xfree86 drivers support TV out.  The few that come to mind are mostly
integrated chips (trident, via, savage, sis).

Alex

--- Bret Hughes <bhughes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> We are looking pretty hard at the little shuttle cube computers for
> an
> upgraded platform for our service.  There are several choices of
> chipsets and I was wondering what might be better supported in X for
> playing flash movies in a browser, mpeg videos of various formats to
> Composite /svhs out and DVI out ( not necessarily at the same time).
> 
> Shuttle barebones systems provides Mobos with what looks like three
> basic video  chipsets in our price range:
> 
> as an fyi, Shuttle provides cards that plug into the agp port that
> provide the composite and svhs tv out as well as DVI and I am leaning
> toward Athlon 2000 based systems with 256MB Ram.
> 
> Primary chipsets seem to be :
> 
> Shuttle SK41G - VIA KM266/8235 based with Via Savage 8 video (At
> least I
> think Via does the video too)
> 
> Shuttle SS40G -SIS 740 / 961 based vie SIS 315 4-64MB VGA
> 
> Shuttle SN41G@B nVidia nForce2 / MCP-T based with Geforce4 MX 128 MB
> VGA
> ( I hate to use this since IIUC the drivers are closed sorce and that
> pisses me off)
> 
> I know the North and south bridge combinations provide different FSB
> and
> memory speeds but I am really trying to get a feel for the video
> support
> in either redhat 9 RHPW or possibly fedora,  Failing direct sponging
> off
> redhat is there good support elsewhere that can be easily added?
> 
> Also one last question, given that either DVI or TV out will be
> required, am I better off simply saving the $40 US that the addon
> card
> costs and buying an ATi or other card that does not use system
> memory?
> 
> Remember I am not gaming here just wanting to play some full screen
> movies at 1024 X 768.
> 
> Any tips or info appreciated.  I have read so many documents about so
> many chipsets I am going to be dreaming about bridges built of
> silicon
> over rivers of alpha numeric characters for a week. 
> 
> These look like really cool boxes and the small form factor and
> advanced
> cooling are expactly what we are looking for if I can get it to work.
>  I
> just can't afford to go buy one of each and see what works and what
> does
> not.
> 


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