-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Sunday, May 5, 2002, 7:39:51 AM, Jean wrote: > But now you find that the macho Unixers will win that their little > brains are unable to decypzer the scripts who configure the network > in RedHat or Mandrake and that is why they want a bare bones distro. I used UNIX and administered UNIX systems for many years. I hope you will not interpret this message as a win (whine?). I think that it is really cool, spiffy, neato that RH 7.2 installs and pretty much just works. For the last three installs of 7.2 I did, I *needed* to make only a couple of little tweaks to get basic functionality going. This is a good thing. However, recent Windows incarnations do the same thing, as do Macintosh. What's the difference? Well, as I see it, the difference is that with UNIX / Linux, I have the power and ability to go in and manipulate the configuration to fix things when it doesn't "just work". I remember trying to install a modem on my brother-in-law's Mac. I spent a couple of hours on it and gave up. Nowhere was it documented where the file was that held the AT command to initialize or dial the modem. Nowhere was it documented how to go in and edit the file if you were able to find it. I couldn't even find a "text editor", just a "word processor". Windows is somewhat better on that score, but still tries to be overly "friendly" and hide such stuff from the user. I would hate to see the packaged distros go so far towards the Windows and Mac camps that the only way to configure things was through their "friendly" configuration program. I *really* want to see the flat files documented, even it it is back in an Appendix or in a file somewhere (whose location is clearly documented). That way, when I want to do something that those implementing the configuration program didn't think of (and I *will*), I have the information I need to do what needs to be done. I'm all for letting things just work, but I also want the documentation that allows me to make unanticipated things work (without having to read the source). Ron. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.5.8 Comment: The last PGP with full source disclosure. iQA/AwUBPNVjVG8pw+2/9pUJEQJ6fQCg/MctqE1OiS7p5Hk9CYKzwucHpVcAn1U1 Se3xZllCeCJ5Ht8UcAcKC2cl =37Ww -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Redhat-devel-list mailing list Redhat-devel-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-devel-list