--- Riku Meskanen <mesrik@cc.jyu.fi> wrote: > Nope, you guessed wrong, I haven't been living > in complete darkness either :) I know you aren't living in darkness, otherwise you would be using some __OTHER__ O$. ;o) > I've had VMware since Jun 21 1999 and gone trough > all > releases up to 3.0.0 currently with my laptop. > > I'm quite familiar that vmware has also server > products, not > just workstation version, Have you had a chance to play with any of the ESX/GSX servers yet? They are very stable and are in use in some fairly large companies to replicate many complex environments. Among them would be Siemens, which is a fairly large company IMO. > I happened to jump Linux bandwagon -92 (since first > working support of > SCSI (AHA1542) appeared around .096-0.97) and been > around with many *nix, > mini, pc technologies than vast majority even > haven't heard of. Built > first LAN on -84 an so on ;) I have only been using Linux since 1997, so I guess you might know more about Linux than I. > Virtual servers, blade servers etc. will have their > uses, but until > they will make their way in great numbers to > production servers I > would not hold my breath that they solve all your > backup problems. See above. > Let me tell you a true story. If you have several > servers thousands of > kilometers away, accross the country, and either you > have someone even > pc-user at the site you can instruct him/her to > insert with bootable > recovery media and ask rebooting that darn server. > Just make you give > proper details of the rack and bay and read > identification label not > to accidentally reboot wrong host, oh well... seen > that too :/ > > You can come back even if you don't have complete > lights-out management > with service processors etc. I've done that couple > of times once I worked > for one of the worlds largest telecoms systems > vendors (Lucent) and the > Ignite was our saviour few times you had two options > fly or drive as hell > driven 1200km, to recover the system or just pick up > the phone and ask > basically any installer, datacom or datanetwork > technician to give you a > hand with few simple operations any reasonble human > being can accomplish > without special training. But if you have a low-level BIOS-like OS that can give you access to the ethernet (or other) network device and you can respawn a virtual instance in a few seconds, isn't that just as good? Then you don't have to talk to anyone other than yourself (if you like talking to yourself) and you can just press a button and a new OS is running on the machine if you like. You can copy a complete install of anything to any machine in just a few seconds. It doesn't matter whether it's 5 feet away or 5 thousand miles away. ;o) > > It's worth keeping the recovery simple, you and your > boss both > sleep much better. Exactly, think about waking up and having a 5 second recovery time.... more time for sleep. ===== Kevin C. McConnell --RHCE-- <RedHat Certified Engineer> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com
