Re: ext3 journal on software raid (was Re: PROBLEM: Kernel 2.6.10 crashing repeatedly and hard)

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On Tuesday 04 January 2005 11:18, Peter T. Breuer wrote:
> Maarten <maarten@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Tuesday 04 January 2005 03:41, Andy Smith wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 01:22:56PM +1100, Neil Brown wrote:
> > > > On Monday January 3, ewan.grantham@xxxxxxxxx wrote:


>
> It's not "my" data center.  It is what it is.  I can only control
> certain things in it, such as the software on the machines, and which
> machines are bought.  Nor is it a "data center", but a working
> environment for about 200 scientists and engineers, plus thousands of
> incompetent monkeys.  I.e., a university department.
>
> It would be good of you to refrain from justifications based on
> denigration.

I seem to recall you starting off boasting about the systems you had in place, 
with the rsync mirroring and all-servers-bought-in-duplicate.  If then later 
on your whole secure data center turns out to be a school department, 
undoubtedly with viruses rampant, students hacking at the schools' systems, 
peer to peer networks installed on the big fileservers unbeknownst to the 
admins, and only mains power when you're lucky, yes, then I get a completely 
other picture than you drew at first.  You can't blame me for that.

This does not mean you're incompetent, it just means you called a univ IT dept 
something that it is not, and never will be: secure, stable and organized. 
In other words, if you dislike being put down, you best not boast so much.

Now you'll have to excuse me, I have things to get done today.

Maarten

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