'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 16/08/09 21:58 did gyre and gimble: > On Tue, 11.08.09 09:31, James Bottomley (James.Bottomley at HansenPartnership.com) wrote: > >> On Mon, 2009-08-10 at 21:36 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: >>> On Tue, 11.08.09 05:25, Patrick Shirkey (pshirkey at boosthardware.com) wrote: >>> >>>>> That Skype is a mess is not really anything free software folks can do >>>>> anything about. It's closed source. The Linux version is barely >>>>> maintained and does about everything wrong that it can do wrong. I >>>>> know that some folks believe that Skype's incompat with PA is my >>>>> problem. But quite frankly, it is not. It's Skype's problem. >>>> It's not actually. It's the users problem because when they use skype >>>> they can't use pulseaudio. Unless of course they have a second sound >>>> device such as a usb phone. I personally do have one and maybe it should >>>> be recommended as the correct way to use skype on a Linux Audio >>>> system. >>> Hmm, not sure why having a second audio device should solve any >>> problems Skype has with PA. Everything Skype can do with the second >>> audio device it should be able to do with the first. >> He means hide the second audio device from PA and use it natively in >> ALSA for skype. It's a solution; just not a very elegant one. > > Hmm, but he could temporarily hide the first one too. In fact there is > a tool "pasuspender" which does just that for cases like this. Yeah but: pasuspender + app that should basically run for as long as you are logged in != sense. By having a second card that's not used by pulse allows people to use skype. It's ugly and should be unnecessary but such is life. I seem to have a *lot* of people that use skype complaining about this. It's a very popular program such is the ugly truth :( I do hope they release their fabled new version sooner rather than later as it will shut up a large channel of support/complaints I have to field :( Tho' I'm not holding my breath... Col -- Colin Guthrie gmane(at)colin.guthr.ie http://colin.guthr.ie/ Day Job: Tribalogic Limited [http://www.tribalogic.net/] Open Source: Mandriva Linux Contributor [http://www.mandriva.com/] PulseAudio Hacker [http://www.pulseaudio.org/] Trac Hacker [http://trac.edgewall.org/]